Jab or no job X: Respiratory therapist describes ‘underground’ network of medical workers refusing Covid vaccine


This is the tenth in a series of stories of people being fired from their jobs because they have declined to take the required Covid-19 vaccination. The identities of these workers are being kept confidential because they fear reprisal. More stories will be included in future editions of this series as it continues. Previous interviews in this series are listed and linked at the bottom of this story. Send your story to [email protected].

Joe is a respiratory therapist at one of the three major hospitals in Anchorage. He can’t use his name, or he’d be called into the office for interrogation, and with what he sees going on with discrimination against the unvaccinated, he doesn’t need anymore pressure.

He is one of a group of health professionals who are outside what he calls the “faith covidians,” those who blindly accept the accepted theory of the Covid-19 vaccines.

As someone who works at ground zero with Covid patients on ventilators, he knows the terrible toll the virus takes on people, and he understands the science as well as anyone. He’s also had Covid. Joe studies the research and he’s not ready to take the vaccine.

He talked with Must Read Alaska because he wants people to know about the new culture of bullying and harassing in the hospital. It’s relentless, he says. Those who are unvaccinated are hounded several times a day to change their minds and get the shot.

“Nurses come up to me and they’re crying because they are bullied and harassed. We talk to each other quietly, but when we are walking around the units, we just keep our mouth shut when we are in groups” of others and witness the disparaging remarks about those who have remained unvaccinated. “I’ve even heard people lying when asked if they’ve been vaccinated,” he said. They justify the lie because they weren’t asked what they were vaccinated for.

The intensity of the pressure to vaccinate for Covid has amped up over the months. Earlier, it was not as bad, but now he says the vaccinated professionals will, in packs, pounce on unvaccinated ones, and he also hears them openly mocking patients who are unvaccinated.

“It’s absolutely sickening to hear, but patients who are not vaccinated are being treated differently. It never starts as action, it always starts as words. People say things like,’If they don’t have the vaccine they should be at the bottom of the list.’ Or they’ll say, ‘They made their choice, they shouldn’t be allowed to come to the hospital.’ I’ve heard this stuff from people with my own ears,” Joe said.

“A homeless drug addict comes in and we give him the best care we can give him, knowing he’ll probably be back in a month. But when it comes to Covid, it’s like a cult,” Joe said.

When nurses and techs leave their shifts, they make reports to the next professionals taking over. They’ll describe the patient and explain, for example, if he is asthmatic, diabetic, and what medications he takes. But now, a new item has been added to the report: Is the patient vaccinated?

“I say, what difference does it make if they are vaccinated or unvaccinated? It should not change anything we do to care for people. To hear that slipped into the report is disturbing.”

Joe says this new addition to reports presents an opening for bias against the patient.

One patient with a serious case of Covid repeatedly told a doctor that she had been vaccinated, and when the doctor left her room, he told a group of colleagues that he didn’t believe her, that if she had been vaccinated, she would not have Covid.

Joe says the conversations among professionals around other diseases and treatments have always been open and respectful, in the spirit of scientific inquiry. People use logic and and are open to new theories, and also have a healthy dose of doubt. But around Covid, there’s only one accepted point of view: Vaccines.

“If you say you’ve heard of a study about Vitamin D, the’ll say, ‘Oh that’s crap, it’s just a correlation.’ They won’t even consider it,” he said. He believes there is prejudice against studies being conducted in countries like India or Bangladesh, because they are not from the more highly developed world.

Doctors are cherry-picking the information they use to push vaccines, something Joe has never seen them do before. They don’t want to hear about Ivermectin, and dismiss it as a horse deworming medicine.

Ivermectin, which is used to treat malaria, river blindness, and other parasitic diseases, has not been accepted by mainstream medicine for use with Covid, although it is being used in other countries with apparent success. The scientists who developed the medication won the Nobel Prize for having done so, but Covid-19 wasn’t around when the medication was invented.

“The faith covidians will not listen to anything. All they say is the vaccine is safe, the vaccine works, take the vaccine. This is why I call it a cult,” They’re no longer thinking like scientists, Joe said.

And yet, these are highly intelligent people, very knowledgeable and experienced in medicine. He would trust them with his health in every other respect. But they have developed a blind spot for this virus. “They will not consider evidence that they don’t agree with,” he said. “They would not do that with any other disease.”

He is quick to point out that there are many, many vaccinated people he works with who are not part of that culture of bullying and coercion, and find it as offensive as he does. They remain supportive of those who are making a different decision, and some of them have expressed regret or skepticism for getting the vaccine, which appears to have limitations and sometimes has affected people adversely. But they did it to keep their jobs. These vaccinated allies have told Joe that when all the unvaccinated people are fired, the ones left behind are not going to do two jobs — they’ll just become traveling nurses. They blame hospital management and say they are not going to be picking up the pieces of the mess management is making.

As for the unvaccinated, while they are treated increasingly like “vermin” in the hospital, they have formed an informal support group that meets quietly. They’re not on social media, and joining the group is not easy. It’s extremely confidential.

“It’s an underground group, and we talk about how we are preparing to pay the consequences for our decisions to remain unvaccinated. We’re looking at bartering, we’re saving our money,” he said. It’s a culture of support and information-sharing for how they will survive the culling.

Joe is resigned to the fact he’ll be fired from his job; he just doesn’t know when. There are 30 patients on ventilators in Alaska right now, and the state needs medical technicians like him to run the ventilators and other equipment. He expects he’ll be put on an “unvaccinated list” in his hospital’s Human Resources department but he’ll be able to work a month past the deadline for vaccines, or until they find someone to fill his role.

It won’t be that easy for hospital management, however. Some workers who are vaccinated still are coming down with Covid and are having to take many days or even weeks off from work.

Joe talked to some of his “unvaccinated underground” colleagues before he confided in Must Read Alaska. They’ve seen the mainstream media reports and note that the same medical professionals are being interviewed over and over. Those with dissenting views are not interviewed.

They told him to explain that when they’re gone, the people left behind to work their shifts are going to be even more overworked. The nurses and techs being brought in from out of state are not enough to replace all the medical workers being fired, and they’ll only be filling in through the end of the year. The pressure on those left behind to care for patients is going to be enormous.

“Who is going to care for your family members when we’re gone?” Joe said they asked him to convey.

Read: Part 1: Nurse losing job, after her medical exemption refused

Read: Part II: Pharmacist losing job

Part III: Southcentral Foundation employee losing job Oct. 15 over shot refusal

Part IV: Dozens of Alaskans come forward to tell their stories of being fired for not getting the shot

Part V: Military man getting discharged in Alaska for not taking jab

Part VI: Nurse says she sees too many blood clotting cases associated with jab, so she’s not taking it

Part VII: Bethel police investigator gets put on leave, won’t be returning to the force

Part VIII: Alaska Native man says unvaccinated patients are getting the shaft

Part IX: Sophies choice, between Moderna vaccine or childbearing?

Read: ICU Nurse: Let’s stop demeaning the unvaccinated

Read: Doctor says hospitals are not in crisis, not rationing care

Read: My doctor fired me because I won’t take the vaccine


  1. Branch Covidians are the “Russia!!’ Hoax believers of yesteryear… so eager to hate and blame their neighbors and so reluctant to look at real data or science, these are the willing tools of the left that seeks to destroy the country.

  2. Tell me again how there are no parallels between this and the treatment of Jews in Germany in the 1930s.

    Go ahead. Try. You’ll make a fool of yourself. Facts are against you. A group of people have been singled out for persecution by the state because of a belief. And a disgusting large segment of society applauds it.

    Truth bomb: Joe has summed it up nicely. This is the new religion, and far too many medical people are the zealots. Zealots become fanatics and burn people’s lives down.

    The unvaccinated are heretics in this new faith and must be purged from existence. Those of use who support their right to choose will be next.

    • Agreed, and even the Brits are picking up on the relentless persecution, here’s a headline from todays Daily Mail, Psaki is obviously a student of Joseph Goebbels, just switch out unvaccinated with Jew:
      Psaki blames COVID and unvaccinated Americans for Biden’s terrible polls that have seen his approval crater to 38%
      Her response came as a poll revealed that just 38 percent of Americans approve of Biden’s job as president, and 53 percent disapprove.
      Straight from Germany 1933
      Identify a problem.
      Wait for a reaction.
      Offer a solution.

      • ***Newsflash***
        Politicians always blame someone else for their bad polling numbers and never accept responsibility for their bad policies.

    • This series is about a private companies mandating vaccines, something they did before covid, this is not about the state. If the accusations made are accurate it is the individuals who work for the private companies who are persecuting the other individuals, not the state. So there’s that.

      • EXHIBIT A

        Exactly why do Toyota et al. load your faux environmentally friendly PRIUS with those life saving (cough-cough) uber-expensize catalytic converters, is it because they care about your air? Nope, it’s because they’re mandated on a Federal level, and Toyota et al. are reimbursed by taxpayers, via the Federal bureaucracy, one way or another. #taxcredits
        Nobody does anything voluntarily, unless there’s some reward to be had. #wakeup #theypayitfoward.
        Now go do some proper research. I’d start with looking at the allocation of these taxpayer funded (@$150hr) travel nurses about to hit the Alaskan hospitals, see where they end-up.

        • Eric,
          What does your exhibit A represent other than being completely off subject?
          Any chance you can let me in on this catalytic converter tax credit conspiracy theory between Toyota et al. and the Federal government and what it has to do with the Holocaust and the disingenuous usage of Holocaust imagery by those who are attempting to falsely correlate their cause de jour with death and suffering caused by the Nazi’s? Oh, and tax credits aren’t reimbursements, that’s a common misconception, tax credits reduce the amount of tax burden. If you owed $100 in taxes but had a $25 tax credit you would now owe just $75, you paying less in taxes due to the tax credit does not cost other taxpayers anything.
          Plenty of people do things voluntarily, not all of us are selfish pricks who need a cookie for helping others. I’m not sure what this has to do with the Holocaust and the disingenuous usage of Holocaust imagery by those who are attempting to falsely correlate their cause de jour with death and suffering caused by the Nazi’s either.
          It sounds like you have a budding passion for traveling nurses and how they are paid, I await your report on the subject.

          • >If you owed $100 in taxes but had a $25 tax credit you would now owe just $75, you paying less in taxes due to the tax credit does not cost other taxpayers anything.<
            I see you failed economics 101 too. Now, who picks up the other $25 to pay your public salary?

          • Quite the progressive viewpoint there Eric. And this still doesn’t have anything to do with the Holocaust and the disingenuous usage of Holocaust imagery by those who are attempting to falsely correlate their cause de jour with death and suffering caused by the Nazis.

          • Steve0, do you think the persecution of Jews and the holocaust happened simultaneously? Nazis didn’t wake up in 1933 and start segregating, beating, firing, denying services, incarcerating, mass transporting to death camps, starving, mass killing and mass graves all in the first day. It took over ten years of gradual, subtle, incremental steps. There is valid similarity when compared to what occurred in 1933 Germany. Jumping straight to the holocaust to deny the genesis of the persecution in order to win an argument by only recognizing the extreme is evil at best.
            We aren’t at the holocaust phase, and hopefully we will never be at that phase. But it is human to bring notice to extreme trends to prevent that trend from happening. By bringing notice to others who aren’t paying attention so they can do there own thinking rather than assume our government would never do such a thing. The testimonies from the book They Thought They Were Free, will educate you to the fact that those citizens of 1933 Germany did not see it coming and were paralyzed by fear, always thinking that things will change tomorrow and the government will return to a coarse of goodness, but it never did.
            Open your eyes and recognize that this pandemic has given the government more power than they should have ever had.

      • You wrote:

        >If the accusations made are accurate it is the individuals who work for the private companies who are persecuting the other individuals, not the state.<

        kō-ûr′zhən, -shən
        The act or practice of coercing.
        Power or ability to coerce.
        Compulsion; forcible constraint; the act of controlling by force or arms.
        Power of restraint or compulsion.
        The act or process of coercing.
        The application to another of either physical or moral force. When the force is physical, and cannot be resisted, then the act produced by it is a nullity, so far as concerns the party coerced. When the force is moral, then the act, though voidable, is imputable to the party doing it, unless he be so paralyzed by terror as to act convulsively. At the same time coercion is not negatived by the fact of submission under force. “Coactus volui” (I consented under compulsion) is the condition of mind which, when there is volition forced by coercion, annuls the result of such coercion.
        Actual or threatenedforce for the purpose of compelling action by another person; the act of coercing.
        Use of physical or moral force to compel a person to do something, or to abstain from doing something, thereby depriving that person of the exercise of free will.
        A specificinstance of coercing.
        But you do not seem to be able to comprehend what is actually transpiring here, maybe those people you despise so much, those wearing the yellow stars can actually can. #wakeup

        • Eric,
          I’m glad you’ve moved on from talking about Toyotas, tax credits, and catalytic converters to get back to the subject at hand.
          Are you trying to say that the state is conspiring with private individuals through a private company to coerce others into getting vaccinated? Your point is anything but clear, please spell it out for me because I am of limited intelligence and extremely slow to boot…what is it you are trying to say? Do you even know what it is you are trying to say because you’re all over the map buddy.
          You do realize that it’s not just the Nazis that have done the exact same actions you are describing? The actions you are describing have happened time and time again across human history, on small and large scales, and many times more recently than the Holocaust. The reason so many, on the left and the right, try and attach themselves to the Jews from the Holocaust is because the imagery is still relatively fresh in our collective minds and they want to be perceived as the ultimate victim. Most of us are familiar with the story of the Holocaust, and we can (or should) understand the common revulsion to being likened unto such evil. It’s a simpleton who uses this comparison to try and elevate their cause above their perceived opposition. There are countless better examples, but the masses won’t respond, that’s why it’s used by both left and right…they are looking for the easy catch all that makes headlines. It’s disgusting. Anyone with any knowledge or respect for history is ashamed each and every time some ignorant person compares their incomparable cause to the Holocaust.
          And I don’t despise those people who partake in the disingenuous usage of Holocaust imagery while attempting to falsely correlate their cause de jour with death and suffering caused by the Nazis, I feel sorry for their ignorance and would like to help inform them.

          • Steve-O Wrote:
            >Your point is anything but clear, please spell it out for me because I am of limited intelligence and extremely slow to boot…<
            Finally, you understand my meandering point. It took a while. Well, done! C-

          • Good job Eric, you’ve admitted you have no point other than to agree with my self-deprecating humor. Don’t forget to tip your waitress on your way out…

    • The sooner that respiratory therapist leaves their job, the safer patients in that hospital will be. Last month, Providence had a patient contract COVID-19 while under care for an UNRELATED illness.

      Unvaccinated healthcare workers are nothing but DOMESTIC TERRORISTS, destroying from within the very system we are relying upon to heal pandemic sickness and prevent its further spread.

      • Sophie, my final week at work every person with COVID had been ‘vaccinated’ (those eligible, not kids, but their parents were). Every one. Count that! Every one! And those not sick were probably shedding virus asymptomatically. The only one not vaccinated was me! And now I’m fired so there is no one there to care for them!

        • KE,
          That’s an amazing statistical anomaly you were involved in, almost unbelievably amazing. Didn’t you say your last week was October 1st? The state data shows that from Sept 26 until October 2 there were 7,242 new covid cases 1,686 (23%) were vaccine breakthroughs, there were 109 new hospitalizations 16 (15%) of which were vaccine breakthroughs, and fatalities increased by 26, 1 (4%) of which was a vaccine breakthrough.
          Quite amazing that every one, every one!, of the cases you were involved with was vaccinated. That means at every other hospital there were an even higher percentage of unvaccinated covid cases. An absolutely unbelievable statistical anomaly to be sure!
          “those not sick were probably shedding virus asymptomatically” probably, I bet they had cooties too.

          • KE,
            I hear you, I should really stop responding to a couple of the johnny come lately trolls here. The problem is they post such ignorant trash and they actually believe it, I just hope a little reason and sanity will somehow pierce the void.

      • COVID-19 is not a viral pneumonia. It is a viral vascular endotheliitis and attacks the lining of blood vessels, particularly the small pulmonary alveolar capillaries, leading to endothelial cell activation and sloughing, coagulopathy, sepsis, pulmonary edema, and ARDS-like symptoms. This is a disease of the blood and blood vessels. The circulatory system. Any pneumonia that it causes is secondary to that.

        In severe cases, this leads to sepsis, blood clots, and multiple organ failure, including hypoxic and inflammatory damage to various vital organs, such as the brain, heart, liver, pancreas, kidneys, and intestines.

        Some of the most common laboratory findings in COVID-19 are elevated D-dimer, elevated prothrombin time, elevated C-reactive protein, neutrophilia, lymphopenia, hypocalcemia, and hyperferritinemia, essentially matching a profile of coagulopathy and immune system hyperactivation/immune cell exhaustion.

        COVID-19 can present as almost anything, due to the wide tropism of SARS-CoV-2 for various tissues in the body’s vital organs. While its most common initial presentation is respiratory illness and flu-like symptoms, it can present as brain inflammation, gastrointestinal disease, or even heart attack or pulmonary embolism.

        COVID-19 is more severe in those with specific comorbidities, such as obesity, diabetes, and hypertension. This is because these conditions involve endothelial dysfunction, which renders the circulatory system more susceptible to infection and injury by this particular virus.

        The vast majority of COVID-19 cases are mild and do not cause significant disease. In known cases, there is something known as the 80/20 rule, where 80% of cases are mild and 20% are severe or critical. However, this ratio is only correct for known cases, not all infections. The number of actual infections is much, much higher. Consequently, the mortality and morbidity rate is lower. However, COVID-19 spreads very quickly, meaning that there are a significant number of severely-ill and critically-ill patients appearing in a short time frame.

        In those who have critical COVID-19-induced sepsis, hypoxia, coagulopathy, and ARDS, the most common treatments are intubation, injected corticosteroids, and blood thinners. This is not the correct treatment for COVID-19. In severe hypoxia, cellular metabolic shifts cause ATP to break down into hypoxanthine, which, upon the reintroduction of oxygen, causes xanthine oxidase to produce tons of highly damaging radicals that attack tissue. This is called ischemia-reperfusion injury, and it’s why the majority of people who go on a ventilator are dying. In the mitochondria, succinate buildup due to sepsis does the same exact thing; when oxygen is reintroduced, it makes superoxide radicals. Make no mistake, intubation will kill people who have COVID-19.

        The end-stage of COVID-19 is severe lipid peroxidation, where fats in the body start to “rust” due to damage by oxidative stress. This drives autoimmunity. Oxidized lipids appear as foreign objects to the immune system, which recognizes and forms antibodies against OSEs, or oxidation-specific epitopes. Also, oxidized lipids feed directly into pattern recognition receptors, triggering even more inflammation and summoning even more cells of the innate immune system that release even more destructive enzymes. This is similar to the pathophysiology of Lupus.

        COVID-19’s pathology is dominated by extreme oxidative stress and neutrophil respiratory burst, to the point where hemoglobin becomes incapable of carrying oxygen due to heme iron being stripped out of heme by hypochlorous acid. No amount of supplemental oxygen can oxygenate blood that chemically refuses to bind O2.
        Reference: Spartacus

        • Thank you Andrew Troy. Sadly, those who really need to understand this (the trolls here) will pick out about three or four words to use in an attack upon you. Just watch. Healthy is sick, immune is contagious, vaccine is good.

          • Understood, and you are welcome. As a disclaimer, I did not write the above remark. My quotation marks mysteriously disappeared post-post. Welcome to the underground.

          • I am familiar with the statement of Spartacus, and there is much more to it. Perhaps one day we shall know its origin, but for now it is just good to see it out there.

      • So Karen, I mean Sophie, “Last month, Providence had a patient contract COVID-19 while under care for an UNRELATED illness” and what magnificent deduction did you use that it was the fault of a non vaccinated medical person, given that vaccinated can spread the virus as well? And now the non vaccinated are “terrorist”? Can’t get much more dangerous and inciting than your language.

  3. It would be great if Joe and his fellows could somehow record this crap. It would help the lawsuits that are coming over poor healthcare and hostile workplace.

    But I understand if he can’t. People who aided the undesirables are purged as well.

  4. “Faith Covidians”… I like that–and it is right on. It has become a cult, complete with devotion to a narrow subset that is not challenged, as they intentionally blinder themselves from any information that does not fit the approved orthodoxy.

    I challenge them to have the courage to watch the one hour video of Dr Peter McCullough recently posted and explain exactly where he is wrong. They can’t–therefore, they will never even consider watching it.

    https:// rumble.com/vnbv86-winning-the-war-against-therapeutic-nihilism-and-trusted-treatments-vs-unte.html

    • Good for RUMBLE and Dr Peter McCullough.
      In what alternate universe are in, where an Americans 1st amendment rights are being upheld by a Canadian.
      Whatever one believes about COVID and science, please WAKE UP, and see what’s going on all around this PLANDEMIC.

  5. If there are enough “underground” medical staff, perhaps they can band together and start an outpatient clinic that is not biased and willing to treat anyone who walks through the door. I can see a niche market opening up for non-koolaid drinking doctors and nurses. Thank you for sharing your story.

    • You read my mind. I was thinking that is a great idea. Maybe some of them can make home visits, when Providence hospital doesn’t want to treat the unvaccinated. We all know that Providence hospital is the one being talked about. they’re the only ones with doctors/ceos that are refusing to admit they are wrong. Time will prove out.

  6. The reaction to the unvaccinated by firing people will cause as many deaths. It may be that the chance of death is lower being vaccinated but according to the CDC in a recent study about 36% of hospitalized have been vaccinated. This has also been studied in other places like Europe. And for anyone who might be fired there are now perhaps a thousand lawsuits nationwide defending fired workers, for more on that story check Viva Frei , Robert Barnes ytube last Sundays Livestream

  7. Those out of state nurses will be making $150 per hour (at taxpayers expense). I’m surprised the Alaska nurses union insisting on raises all around. Wouldn’t a healthcare walk out be fun, “let’s go Brandon.”

  8. People are drawn to forms of hate, to persecution. All they want, need is a “justifiable” excuse to enact their hatred. They have used religion, skin color, ethnicity but good people outlawed such persecution. Now the evil have found another angle and have used unconstitutional laws to legalize their persecution and hatred and much of the nation has bought off on the psychosis.

  9. Jab Jive:
    Oh the choices that we must face
    Fau-Chi crying to put us in place
    There’s Biden sitting on a fake set
    Was that a real jab, or did his nurse abet
    Allow us to choose at our own pace

    Why so quick, what’s the big rush
    Keep telling us the jab is a plus
    To keep your job and move about
    Lockdowns to avoid another rout
    Let us choose our way, please don’t push

    We are finding the vax may not be the best
    But just keep prompting at your behest
    The big three all have issues to see
    In determining their efficacy
    Adding on to the people’s unrest

    Let us have choices; just let us choose
    At this point seems there is nothing to lose
    What will it be that you’re selectin’
    Will or be the jab, maybe ivermectin

    Natural immunity may be all you need
    Despite the wailing of the Fau-Chi screed
    He says we can be together again
    If we open a window, let the good air rush in
    And maintain separation, six feet, indeed

  10. think its harder to speak against bullies in the moment you witness the bullying/harassing/manipulating take place. Bullies need confrontation when they are caught in the moment bullying a victim.

    Retreating into safe spaces is easier for us or we go up to the victim after an incident telling them you support them and then gossip among one another how wrong the bully is behind their back.

    You know what we are doing? We are sending that bully to hell showing them by our actions we don’t love them enough to tell them what we see they are doing is wrong. Maybe the bully will go to Hell forever and forever, but at least we aren’t responsible for their eternal damnation because of our attempts to correct them before they died which our deaths can come at any time.

    A medical worker who just spent a day bullying their unvaccinated patients and coworkers could die in a car accident enroute going home after leaving the workplace. If no one corrected them during the day, how likely will had they repented before their sudden death?

  11. Do the Faith Covidians also badger the overweight & obese patients. They have been a burden on hospital capacity for decades !

    • We, as a nation of glutinous, over indulging, spoiled, unfit, tobacco and drug insistent, self destructive beings have been the biggest burden on our hospital. Hospitals use to just have occupants of non man made diseases, MVA’s and occupational injuries. That wasn’t feeding the medical industry enough money so we pushed bad habits and unhealthy lifestyles as the norm to make them rich and powerful and we made it easy for them.

  12. Thank you for reporting this!! I pray those will continue to stand the line. My husband is an unvaccinated provider about to lose his job but will not cave, we would rather go hungry at this point than give in. He is well studied and provides care to covid patients, many of whom are vaccinated. We don’t hear of the vaccinated cases of Course. I can’t leave his name or my name or my name for obvious reasons

  13. Most Medical Facilities in Alaska have put Covid-19 as their #1 priority, Patient Care is probably #3 or #4.
    It’s all about Politics and Money! Our Tax Dollars provide Billions to Big Pharma, Big Corporations both profit and nonprofit. Insurance Corporations only pay for non Covid-19 related Deaths/Medical Care. I would wager, if Covid-19 is anywhere on paperwork or charts that Insurance is not billed. Thanks to the Biden Administrations Corrupt Policies COVID-19 funds are unlimited. What do we get for Our Tax Dollars? Fear, Division and ever changing Science and non Science designed to keep this Covid-19 thing going on forever. Politics and Money, Power and Control!!!
    If Body Cams can be required for Law Enforcement, why not require all Medical Professionals while on Duty, Body Recorders when talking to Patients and Family, Hospital Administration and Human Resources. Maybe than the conversations would get back to Patient Care.

    • HIPPA!
      While for some reason HIPPA does not apply to Covid (so some pimple faced 17 y/o at the performing arts center gets to ask for my vaccination status), it still applies to all other medical interactions a patient has with his provider ( we will see how long that will last). However recording staff interactions, bullying and such may be legal. Also I think patients can record their interaction with providers.

      • Anyone going to a drive through testing site has to sign their rights away tonget the test. Hippa included. I wonder how many sheep actually read what they signed.

        • Talk about BS.
          I recently used a drive through testing site in Fairbanks and got a quick-test to get into Canada. They originally said they didn’t have a quick-test but when I described my issue they changed their tune (saying they only had a few and I could get one under my circumstances).
          The results were sent to my e-mail by the time I had driven to Delta.
          You must be “thinking” again CP. Heheh!

          • I did not mention anything about quick tests. Perhaps you shouldn’t try thinking. You might break yourself.

          • The drive thru testing site gave other tests as well and nobody had to sign their rights away. What does a quick-test have to do with anything? I suspect you’ve never been through one and are making this up.

  14. Thank you for exposing this, “covidians” lol! A fitting name, it’s like they got their jab and they feel they are a select breed with a status higher then anyone and if this must be the case I shall now be referred to as “pureblood”, some pureblood t-shirts and hats would be great to separate us from “them”. Maybe mix it up with some MAGA gear to trigger them too.

  15. In Louisiana Oshner “healthcare” is charging $200 a month benefits surcharge for unvaccinated SPOUSES of staff members.

    SPOUSES . Not staff. Not children. Yet.

    Ted Leiu, Rep CA. (Supporter of universal healthcare) says unvaccinated should pay more for care.

    Companies are forcing staff to chose between work and the vaccine.

    And it goes on and on and on.

    Do you really think, vaccination or not, the zealots won’t come for you, too?


  16. And at the same time, these zealots are remarkably silent regarding the unvaccinated hoard swarming the southern border.

    Ever wonder where our gutless wonder of a “governor” is? He is standing as tall for unvaccinated Alaskans as he did for the PFD. What an absolute joke.

  17. Both extremes are acting cult like and their faith and beliefs. No amount of truth, logic, reason, or science will dissuade the true believers.

    • No, Steve, you are wrong and/or lying here again (as you virtually always are). It is only the hysterical and authoritarian Covidian Cult that is trying to FORCE their (hysterical and irrational) beliefs onto others at the point of a gun, i.e., under force of law. Those who strongly believe the opposite are not trying to force their own beliefs or ways of living onto the Branch Covidians, only the opposite.

      • Jeff,
        Why am I not surprised you would respond?
        You really need to work on your understanding of words. Calling everyone you disagree with a liar without ever even trying to show what they are lying about just makes you sound like an insane homeless person yelling at anyone within earshot.
        Yes there are some trying impose mandates, some of these mandates are clearly unconstitutional whether some like it or not. Others are clearly constitutional, whether you like it or not. I have yet to see where mask or vaccine mandates have been enforced at gun point, at least in this county…if you have evidence of such please feel free to show it.
        Didn’t you recently say that you have nothing to say to me? Doesn’t that make you a liar?

        • “I have yet to see where mask or vaccine mandates have been enforced at gun point …”
          Then you cannot see, Steve. All these COVID-related governmental mandates are being enforced by the coercive power of government, i.e. at gunpoint. If you do not believe that that is true, then tell me, what will happen to anyone who openly or even covertly defies them? Will not agents of the government eventually show up with weapons to enforce their will?
          Again, Steve, you prove yourself to be nothing more than an establishment Quisling.

          • Jeff,
            So you admit you’re prone to lying and you do have things to say to me, glad we’ve cleared that up.
            Where are they enforcing all these mandates at gun point?
            Better yet, which mandates are being enforce at gun point that have you so fearful? I haven’t seen it, but I don’t get out much. Last time I flew anywhere they said that you had to wear a mask in the airport and on the plane but not everyone was wearing a mask, I didn’t see anyone enforcing that with a gun pointed at anyones head.
            Now you ask me “what will happen to anyone who openly or even covertly defies them? Will not agents of the government eventually show up with weapons to enforce their will?” Seriously you are asking me to provide your evidence for you? What will happen, Jeff why are you so scared to find out? Defy these mandates that frighten you so…wait which mandates are they that have you shaking in your boots again?
            I asked for evidence and you bring empty words and insults as is your way. Where’s the evidence Jeff? Show me where someone in Alaska has been forced to wear a mask at gun point, show me where in Alaska some one has been forced to be vaccinated at gun point. Enough of your hollow words, show your proof.

          • Steve, governmental coercion is ALWAYS at the implied point of a gun. The fact that the gun is not always seen takes nothing away from the fact that it is always there, in the background, waiting for those who defy the orders of the government.

          • Jeff,
            So you have no examples, not even one? Come on man, I could come up with one if I spent 15 seconds trying to find it. Just empty words and fear from you, which mandates have you been subjected to at gun point? Did you resist the mandate or were you too scared to fight for your freedoms?
            Have you had a chance to break away from your busy work schedule to testify about your fear at the assembly meetings or are you too scared for that?

  18. The vax’d professionals has certainly made the hospitals a modern day concentration incinerator to the un-vax’d.
    What is the medical, treatment plan to make one better for the unvax’d vs vax’d? My friend who chose not to get the jab has been in since Sept 29th (around that time) and has not improved. One would think if there were a good treatment plan she’d be better or improved by now. Not in this case, her oxygen levels are still not up to power & her health for that matter. In fact worst than before she went in.
    Praying ?? for the “faith covidians”. Certainly the underground people to assist those in dire need of rescue.

  19. “The vaccines for COVID-19 are not sterilizing and do not prevent infection or transmission. They are “leaky” vaccines. This means they remove the evolutionary pressure on the virus to become less lethal. It also means that the vaccinated are perfect carriers. In other words, those who are vaccinated are a threat to the unvaccinated, not the other way around.

    All of the COVID-19 vaccines currently in use have undergone minimal testing, with highly accelerated clinical trials. Though they appear to limit severe illness, the long-term safety profile of these vaccines remains unknown.

    Some of these so-called “vaccines” utilize an untested new technology that has never been used in vaccines before. Traditional vaccines use weakened or killed virus to stimulate an immune response. The Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines do not. They are purported to consist of an intramuscular shot containing a suspension of lipid nanoparticles filled with messenger RNA. The way they generate an immune response is by fusing with cells in a vaccine recipient’s shoulder, undergoing endocytosis, releasing their mRNA cargo into those cells, and then utilizing the ribosomes in those cells to synthesize modified SARS-CoV-2 Spike proteins in-situ.

    These modified Spike proteins then migrate to the surface of the cell, where they are anchored in place by a transmembrane domain. The adaptive immune system detects the non-human viral protein being expressed by these cells, and then forms antibodies against that protein. This is purported to confer protection against the virus, by training the adaptive immune system to recognize and produce antibodies against the Spike on the actual virus. The J&J and AstraZeneca vaccines do something similar, but use an adenovirus vector for genetic material delivery instead of a lipid nanoparticle. These vaccines were produced or validated with the aid of fetal cell lines HEK-293 and PER.C6, which people with certain religious convictions may object strongly to.

    SARS-CoV-2 Spike is a highly pathogenic protein on its own. It is impossible to overstate the danger presented by introducing this protein into the human body.

    It is claimed by vaccine manufacturers that the vaccine remains in cells in the shoulder, and that SARS- CoV-2 Spike produced and expressed by these cells from the vaccine’s genetic material is harmless and inert, thanks to the insertion of prolines in the Spike sequence to stabilize it in the prefusion conformation, preventing the Spike from becoming active and fusing with other cells. However, a pharmacokinetic study from Japan showed that the lipid nanoparticles and mRNA from the Pfizer vaccine did not stay in the shoulder, and in fact bioaccumulated in many different organs, including the reproductive organs and adrenal glands, meaning that modified Spike is being expressed quite literally all over the place. These lipid nanoparticles may trigger anaphylaxis in an unlucky few, but far more concerning is the unregulated expression of Spike in various somatic cell lines far from the injection site and the unknown consequences of that.

    Messenger RNA is normally consumed right after it is produced in the body, being translated into a protein by a ribosome. COVID-19 vaccine mRNA is produced outside the body, long before a ribosome translates it. In the meantime, it could accumulate damage if inadequately preserved. When a ribosome attempts to translate a damaged strand of mRNA, it can become stalled. When this happens, the ribosome becomes useless for translating proteins because it now has a piece of mRNA stuck in it, like a lace card in an old punch card reader. The whole thing has to be cleaned up and new ribosomes synthesized to replace it. In cells with low ribosome turnover, like nerve cells, this can lead to reduced protein synthesis, cytopathic effects, and neuropathies.”

    Read the entire article by “Spartacus”
    at americasfrontlinedoctors posted 5 oct 2021 (this is not a link)

  20. Use discernment and research facts. There is NO jab mandate for employers with 100 or more workers. There is NO FDA approved COVID jab. It is unconstitutional to force an experiment on anyone. All of the COVID jabs are under Emergency Authorization and have NOT completed required safety trials to be approved vaccines. Any employer that forces the jab on employees is violating the Nuremberg Code. Check out Senator Johnson’s (Wisconsin) statements regarding FDA’s approval of Comridity’s application, don’t believe me. Look for the DOD whistleblower data where more than 50,000 Medicare patients have died after receiving the jab(s), which will eventually be proven to be crimes against humanity. Look for the Veritas whistleblower information on Pfizer. Lies, lies, lies everywhere. The truth will set us free.

    • TRUTH. There is nothing in writing. The “mandate” is nothing more than a sound byte, according to sources.

  21. These people are in the wrong professions. They have no business treating vulnerable people. They need to retrain and find something else to do where they can’t make others sick. Like counting migrating birds on a Bering Sea island or something. We need intelligent people in medical professions!

  22. Well here’s the latest little tidbit from the center for conservatism, Harvard:
    ‘At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1). In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people.’
    The study is peer reviewed, released 17 August and accepted 9 September; Increases in COVID‑19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States (title of .pdf). Think the know-it-alls will listen to Harvard?

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