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First 2018 GOP straw poll: Dunleavy, Hawkins, Chenault

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In Juneau, Republicans hosted two Friday forums with the declared Republican candidates for Alaska governor and lieutenant governor. The candidates answered questions at a luncheon and dinner, with about 180 participants between the two events:

The combined results of an unscientific straw poll conducted at the events are:

GOVERNOR

Mike Dunleavy – 49%
Scott Hawkins – 34%
Rep. Mike Chenault – 14%
Write-Ins – 3%
Michael Sheldon – 0%

 

 

 

 

 

LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR

Sen. Kevin Meyer – 66%
Lynn Gattis – 19%
Edie Grunwald – 15%
Stephen Wright – 0%

Is the governor going off-reservation for Dunleavy seat?

Republican officers of District E expressed concern this week that Gov. Bill Walker is secretly contacting people of the district to appoint his own replacement for Sen. Mike Dunleavy.

He is contacting people not on the list of three offered to him by Alaska Republican Party district chairs.

Word has leaked that as many as five people have been contacted by the Governor’s Office for an interview. At least one has already told the governor that he prefers to honor the process.

The district officers had already vetted applicants through an organized and transparent process, and offered the governor three names to replace Sen. Mike Dunleavy, who has resigned the Senate in order to run for governor.

The party-recommended three are District 9 Rep. George Rauscher, Todd Smoldon, and Tom Braund. District 9 and 10 met in a combined meeting and considered 11 applicants, interviewed five, and recommended three.

At least 45 people in the party participated in the vetting of applicants, a process that was overseen by Party Chairman Tuckerman Babcock. The participants followed party rules and spent a combined 500 hours on the decision.

“I am deeply concerned that before the governor even interviewed the three people offered by the party, he is contacting others, some of whom did not make the short list. How could this not be seen as disrespectful to the committed volunteers representing the people of District E?” said Babcock.

District E is a conservative stronghold that reaches from Wasilla to Valdez. In 2014, former Gov. Sean Parnell won the district handily with the exception of Talkeetna and Valdez, which is Walker’s hometown.

“While vetting applicants, my district found some to have conflicting interests with various people groups in our district. I am hoping the Governor will pick from our list to avoid such conflicts,” said Carol Carman, Republican Chair for District 9. Carman said the committee worked long hours and submitted their names in a timely manner to the governor.

But the governor has shown a proclivity to ignore party recommendations and pick his own. After Democrat Rep. Dean Westlake resigned his seat in December, the governor ignored the three names recommended by the Democratic Party and chose a Kotzebue resident — not even a Democrat — who had not even applied for the District 40 seat.

That appointment came on Thursday, and the House Democrats, who have been embracing unaffiliated candidates in order to win elections, approved the governor’s choice of John Lincoln.

[Read: ‘Unaffiliated’ Lincoln picked to replace Westlake]

The Republican Party State Central Committee is meeting in Juneau today and is weighing a resolution to scold the governor for disprespecting the process.

Has Byron Mallott lost control of the State Seal?

 

It appears the Governor’s Office has lent the Alaska State Seal to a group of Alaska nonprofits fighting the Pebble Mine.

The group of anti-mining interests put out a long series of statements today praising the EPA decision to slow-walk any mining in Bristol Bay.

The State Seal was included like a logo along with the other logos.

The question is, did the lieutenant governor lose control of the State Seal?

One of his main jobs is to protect the seal, but it looks like it’s being used in an improper capacity, yet with the governor’s quotes and the contact information for his press secretary

The State Seal implies the joint statement is an official document of the state, which is why guarding it is a constitutional duty, an oath sworn by the lieutenant governor. Here is what Lt. Gov. Byron Mallott allowed to go out today:

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?

The issue is not that the governor has an opinion on Pebble, but the mining prospect is on State land, and by opposing Pebble so vigorously along with groups that could eventually sue the state, Walker is putting the regulatory authority of the state into legal jeopardy.

Must Read Alaska wonders if this is what “guarding the State Seal” looks like.

 

‘Safe, secure Anchorage’: Three strikes you’re out of jail

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A COUPLE THAT STEALS TOGETHER STAYS TOGETHER

Vernae and Shannon Perkins were arrested on Monday following the discovery of three stolen vehicles at their Boniface Parkway home.

Vernae, the lady of the house, was driving one of them, and the other two were parked in their driveway. Maybe she didn’t know any of them were stolen. She has no prior arrests.

The couple is out of jail already, on “community supervision” status, according to Department of Corrections records.

Shannon Perkins, the man of the household, is no stranger to the law. He has a string of bad experiences with the law, but none more interesting than when in 2015 he shot two men in self-defense. One man died. The other was blamed for the death.

The two men had entered Perkins’ residence to retrieve personal belongings, but also to confront Perkins, who was dating the former girlfriend of one of the men.

According to police reports in 2016, Perkins had been assaulted by Dominick Lozano in the past. Lozano and Radford Hepa backed Perkins into a corner and were on the attack when Perkins grabbed a nearby gun and shot them both. Hepa, an oil worker originally from Hawaii, died from his gunshot wound.

Lozano, although he went to the hospital with a bullet wound, lived and, after being on the lam for a while, was charged with Hepa’s death.

“His friend was killed in the process of committing the crime so he is liable, so he is charged with manslaughter,” police said at the time. In fairness, Perkins was a victim defending himself, but he was clearly wandering down the wrong path already, according to other court records.

CAR THEFT SPREE

Shannon Perkins’ professional profile on LinkedIn says he is an “Entrepreneur, Self Employed.” A look into what he is engaged in shows a string of entrepreneurial opportunities that involve taking other people’s stuff.

And now he has three more charges to add to his collection. Here’s how it went down this week:

Last Monday, a police officer stopped a Nissan Pathfinder that had plates on it belonging to a different vehicle. The officer conducted a computer check and it revealed the Pathfinder itself had been reported as stolen.

The driver, Vernae Perkins, was arrested and charged with Vehicle Theft I.

Since the traffic stop was outside of the Perkins’ residence at the 1000 block of Boniface Parkway, the officer ran the license plates for the two vehicles parked in the driveway and discovered those were also reported stolen. One was a green Ford pickup truck reported stolen on July 11, 2017 from Brayton Drive, and the other a white Ford van reported stolen on Nov. 18 from W. 34th Avenue.

Vernae’s husband, Shannon Perkins, who was home at the time, was interviewed by police and arrested, charged with three counts of Vehicle Theft I and three counts of Theft II.

Both Shannon and Vernae were incarcerated at the Anchorage Jail. Yet by Thursday morning, their custody status was listed as “community supervision” – in other words, they were back on the street.

Back in October, things were rosier for the couple. Vernae wrote on her Facebook page:” I just love my husband so much! He is so amazing, & He just keeps amazing me everydqy! I would seriously be lost with out him! He knows me more then anyone ever will! I love you shannon keith Perkins!”

Rogoff settles with GCI, zips off to London

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Alice Rogoff gave a speech on Wednesday about the Arctic. She was at the University College of London, where no one was going to be rude enough to ask her about her newspaper bankruptcy.

Her ex-husband, now a most-eligible bachelor named David Rubenstein, was being interviewed in Davos, Switzerland, at a world conference attended by the “gold-collar” class  — multiple steps up from mere “white collar”.

The topic of Rogoff’s talk was “The U.S. and its Emerging Arctic Interest.” She spoke in a room that holds up to 60 people. It was an exhaustive speech about energy, supply lines, shipping, Russian domination, and global warming. Also tourism, North Korea, and ice breakers. Standard Arctic stuff.

Rogoff brought an impressive slide deck and wore a fetching black wool jacket, as she does, with butterflies. She did not adopt the taupe school marm look she has been presenting in  bankruptcy court in Anchorage.

Meanwhile, over at Davos, Rubenstein was being interviewed about “the next financial crisis” and how debt, geopolitics, unexpected world events and a widespread sense of general happiness were the things that worried him most as a private equity investor. He wore a pinstripe suit, as he does, and no wedding ring. He hasn’t worn one for years.

ALASKA ALICE’S FINANCIAL CARNAGE

Back in blue-collar Alaska, a quiet court settlement was being finalized with GCI, Rogoff’s former landlord. Rogoff had signed a confidential agreement just before she jetted off to London for her speaking engagement and the requisite black-tie dinners and receptions.

GCI, the company she once blamed for her bankruptcy, had accepted an offer from her, ending negotiations on at least one claim. A big one.

The “confession of judgment” was filed Wednesday in State Superior Court in Anchorage. The judgment pertains to the $1.5 million personal guarantee Rogoff made last year to GCI, a promise that she would remove printing presses and clean up the GCI building or pay GCI the amount she estimated the removal and mitigation would cost.

It appears from a copy of the judgment that Rogoff is paying something for GCI to do the work for her. But the terms are confidential and GCI would not comment for this story.

Rogoff, former owner of the now-defunct Alaska Dispatch News (now restored as the Anchorage Daily News and under new owners), has at least some cash to pay GCI; her divorce to David Rubenstein is in the rearview mirror. She has cash flow once again.

But although the press removal bill is now settled, she has not paid hefty amounts that many others say she owes them, most of whom are small Alaska businesses and individuals. Her former business partner, Tony Hopfinger, is waiting for his court date in March with Rogoff. Hopfinger sued Rogoff in 2015, saying she still owed him $900,000 after he sold her his portion of the Dispatch. She said she owes him nothing.

[Read: Rogoff response: I owe him nothing]

Another lawsuit, from Arctic Partners, is also pending. And so is another from GCI over unpaid back rent and electrical bills that Rogoff walked out on, totalling well over $1.3 million plus compensatory damages.

And then there’s the multiple creditors, including Northrim Bank, that were standing in line to be made whole after they allowed Rogoff to run up the bills when she purchased the Anchorage Daily News.

Some are owed only a few hundred dollars or a few thousand. But it’s a lot of money to them. And they won’t see much, if anything, if she has her way.

WHY ROGOFF OWED GCI MILLIONS

When Rogoff bought the Anchorage Daily News and renamed it the Alaska Dispatch News, the purchase included the building on Northway Drive. She bought the entire operation and property from the McClatchy Company and quickly sold the building to GCI to raise cash that would help her buy the newspaper.

She was going to look for a new location for the presses, but she was distracted by her flying adventures, her dinners with heads of state, hosting President Obama at her Campbell Lake home, and the many symposia about the Arctic. She just never got to it.

[Read: The summer of Alice Rogoff’s discontent]

She entered into an agreement with the communications company to vacate the premises by the fall of 2015, remove the printing presses and clean up the decades worth of spilled ink and solvents that were in the space occupied by the monster presses. She never got around to that either.

By February of 2017 she had stopped paying GCI rent and her sizable share of the electric bill for the building, which was running $40,000 a month.

In August of 2017, GCI filed a complaint in Superior Court to evict Alaska Dispatch News from the place that was once the heady headquarters of a growing newspaper, a newspaper that was now a shadow of its former self.

The eviction was not a surprise to Rogoff. Weeks earlier, she had been warned by GCI, which sent a letter to her on July 20, 2017, telling her that time was up and that the power would be cut off on Aug. 9.

[Read: Dispatch evicted]

GCI said she violated her lease by not paying it. Her response was to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy immediately and ask Fairbanks businessman John Binkley to please re-engage in discussions with her to buy the paper. She had spurned his earlier offers.

Binkley immediately loaned the newspaper $1 million to keep going until they could carve out a deal.

Rogoff was indignant about GCI’s action.

She wrote in her paper, “It is extremely unfortunate that GCI has taken this legal action to evict us from our press facility. The events that led us to this point have been extremely complex. At no point has there been any bad faith on the part of the newspaper. Our goal has always been to keep Alaska’s largest newspaper alive and robust for the sake of our readers and the community. Our goal remains unchanged and we are in active discussions toward that end. Until the discussions are concluded, we are unable to provide any details. Please know that business disputes arise from many causes and are never one-sided. We hope that this matter will be resolved shortly to the benefit of all parties.”

But she was off soon for her annual summer in Nantucket and the usual sailing regatta adventures. She phoned it in from Nantucket when her first bankruptcy hearing took place on Aug. 24.

Meanwhile, Rogoff gave a personal guarantee to GCI to remove the presses and clean up the mess. And since her divorce decree was being worked on, the longer she could drag out her spiraling bankruptcy proceedings, the better.

This week’s settlement, which comes just weeks after her December divorce settlement with Rubenstein, will satisfy one in many disputes.

But there are so many others.

She owes Arctic Partners for rent and damages because she had signed a lease for a building on Arctic Blvd, but reneged on that one as well.

Rogoff also claims to be a creditor of her former company. She says she is owed $16.6 million from the defunct shell companies she owned and ran her newspaper operations with in a disorganized way that has even challenged the expertise of the bankruptcy trustee, who has been untangling the mess.

The difference between her as a creditor and the other creditors is evident in that, while they are trying to pierce the barricade between her business finances and her personal ones, she is fighting to keep her personal assets from becoming entangled in what is now a Chapter 7 liquidation bankruptcy.

With what fortune she now has from divorce settlement, Rogoff is perhaps, as with GCI, settling some of her debts — likely for substantially less than what she originally owed.

 

No airplane tax — for now

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The Aviation Advisory Board has pursuaded the Walker Administration to hold off on the proposed airplane tax and registration program. At least this year, airplane owners will not have to register with the state (they are already registered with the federal government) and pay $150.

The Department of Transportation and Public Facilities recently proposed an Aircraft Registration Program to track aircraft at certain airports on behalf of the Federal Aviation Administration. It created a bit of an uproar in the aviation community.

The program was voluntary and the tax was optional, as there was never any enforcement or collection mechanism. Aircraft owners could register their planes as associated with one airport, but be primarily using a different one. And hundreds of air strips in Alaska are simply unattended gravel strips, not being maintained with federal dollars,

If all airplane owners participated, it would bring $2 million into the State treasury. The cost of running the program would have been a $50,000 piece of registration software and unknown personnel costs.

The Aviation Advisory Board discussed the proposal with DOT and the FAA at its meeting in Juneau this week and brought up a number of concerns that the public had expressed during the public comment period.

An analysis of the aircraft registration needs of FAA revealed that only a small number of planes fit the requirements that FAA has for knowing which airports are being most heavily used, which is something that guides funding decisions.

Ultimately, the State backed off and said it would go back to the drawing board to come up with a registration system that meets the needs of FAA to understand where best to put tax dollars for airports, and yet does not collect more information from the public than is absolutely necessary.

The Aviation Advisory Board will continue to meet with DOT to discuss what information is absolutely needed and how the registration system would provide tangible benefits to the private plane owners.

‘Unaffiliated’ Lincoln picked for District 40 seat

JOHN LINCOLN IS GOVERNOR’S PICK TO REPLACE WESTLAKE

Gov. Bill Walker appointed John Agnaqluk Lincoln of Kotzebue to represent House District 40 in the Alaska House of Representatives. The area spans from Kotzebue to Barrow and is the epitome of rural Alaska.

Lincoln was born in Kotzebue and is a vice president for NANA Regional Corporation, where he oversees and manages NANA lands.

He is an Iñupiat who was valedictorian of Kotzebue High School in 1999, and he went on to earn a bachelor’s degree from Stanford University. He is a private pilot and has worked as an EMT for the Kotzebue Volunteer Fire Department.

“Just like the Democratic Party officials in House District 40, I set out to identify the person who is best prepared to lead at this pivotal moment in Alaska’s history,” Governor Walker said in a late-night press release. “I thank everyone who stepped forward and applied, but I am fully convinced that John Lincoln is the best person for this role.”

District 40 Republicans — a small but spirited bunch — posted their good wishes to the nominee on Facebook: “John Lincoln would have been a GREAT Republican candidate for HD40.”

The governor had been working closely with the Democratic Party for days to come up with more names after the vetting of the first three candidates fell short.

Two of them became embroiled in a personal dispute between them, and the third was inexperienced. The governor had, by statute, until Thursday to finalize a pick.

The House Democrats are expected to confirm the appointment quickly and put the smell of complicity behind them.

Presumably, Lincoln will change his political affiliation to Democrat, but since Democrats now embrace nonaligned politicians in Alaska, he may remain a man without a party, embraced by the Democratic caucus.

The need for an appointment came about because the Alaska Democratic Party had challenged one of their own — Democrat Ben Nageak of Barrow — in the 2016 primary.

They pushed Dean Westlake as their chosen man with the help of Gov. Bill Walker’s associate Robin Brena and other large urban Democrat donors.

Then, the Division of Elections allowed irregular voting throughout the district, including allowing people to vote two ballots in some communities. Nageak lost by eight votes.

The election was challenged in court, but the judge said that the irregularities were mistakes that resulted from poor training, and he did not force a new election.

Westlake turned out to be a disaster, having harassed several women before and after being sworn in last January. He resigned in disgrace in December.

Many thought that this seat would go to a woman because of the deeply embarrassing history of Westlake, and the fact that so many Democrat lawmakers, both men and women, knew about Westlake’s proclivities.

Sen. Shelley Hughes, who originally came into the House of Representatives after being chosen by Gov. Sean Parnell to fill out the term of the late Rep. Carl Gatto, questioned Gov. Walker’s judgment: “When the governor chooses to appoint someone not on the list presented to him by the people in the district, is it safe to assume he thinks he knows better than they do what they need?”

 

‘Bernie Sanders Democrat’ files against Don Young

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A man who was the subject of controversy in 2016 over his affiliation with a Muslim group has filed to run against Congressman Don Young.

Gregory “Shoaib” Jones filed as a Democrat with the Federal Elections Commission, complicating the aspirations of Alyse Galvin, a Democrat who has changed to an unaffiliated  candidate to run against Young in the Democrats’ 2018 primary.

Alyse Galvin, Bernie Sanders Democrat turned  unaffiliated.

Galvin, founder of the Great Alaska Schools advocacy group and a close associate of the National Education Association union, has the apparent support of the Alaska Democratic Party.

But before they can put an unaffiliated candidate on their ballot, they will have to win their pending case in the Alaska Supreme Court. The State of Alaska has challenged the judge’s ruling to allow ballot hopping because running a nonaffiliated person on a party ballot is an easy way to deceive voters.

[Read: Judge rules Democrat Party can run nonpartisans on their ballot]

WHO IS GREG JONES?

Meanwhile, Jones used to live in Wasilla, but now is registered as living in Anchorage. He was a delegate to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, Penn., representing Bernie Sanders Democrats from Alaska.

Jones is a political activist.

In 2016, he ran against Rep. Mark Neuman in District 8, the deeply Republican Mat-Su Valley. In the process of being a candidate, he appeared on the Amy Demboski Show on KVNT. They had a cordial discussion.

On the show, he said he was affiliated with The Muslims of America, a group that was singled out by the Clarion Project for radical activities.

[Read: The alt-left picks its next battle with Amy Demboski]

 

Amy Demboski, talk show host

Demboski is a member of the Anchorage Assembly representing Eagle River and Chugiak. She is a former candidate for mayor and is no stranger to controversy.

Her postings about Jones on Facebook angered the Anchorage Left and drew rebuke from the liberal members of the Assembly, who publicly apologized to Jones.

But Demboski didn’t apologize. She said anyone running for office has to stand for scrutiny, that their associations matter, and she said Fox News had a lot of documentation on the group. The Southern Poverty Law Center said the Clarion Project was Islamophobic.

In the General Election, Jones took 18 percent of the vote to Neuman’s 82 percent.

Raised in a community called Holy Islamville, in S.C., Jones and his wife moved to Alaska a decade ago and settled in Wasilla-Big Lake. He is an electrician and the couple is involved in “interfaith groups, civil rights activism and Democratic political circles,” according to a story about him in the Anchorage Daily News.

WHO ARE THE MUSLIMS OF AMERICA?

The Muslims of America, the group that Jones was raised in, was founded by Muslim converts in New York City who follow the teachings of a Pakistani Muslim Sheik Mubarik Ali Shah Gilani.

According to the sheik’s biography in Wikipedia, the U.S. Government found ties between the cleric and a terrorist organization Jamaat ul-Fuqra.

Sheikh Gilani has written a rebuttal: “In regard to the name, they say MOA is a front for Jamaat al Fuqra. They try to keep bringing this name Jamaat al Fuqra, but we don’t acknowledge it. Can our enemies show me, in my own writing, where I said I established Jamaat al Fuqra or its offices here in Pakistan or in America?” … “None ever called themselves Jamaat ul Fuqra.

The use of the word “enemies” may have gone unnoticed, but seems important for a group espousing peace.

Wall Street Reporter Daniel Pearl was abducted while on his way to interview Gilani to talk to him about a connection between the sheik and Richard Reid, the “shoe bomber.”

The FBI has cleared Gilani’s name in connection with the shoe bomber. But not everyone is convinced that his activities are benign.

Candidate Jones says the whole thing about Gilani is manufactured. Will the media ask him to explain it, or gloss it over?

Who will the Democrats back? The man they defended against “Islamophobia” and took to the National Convention, or a privileged, white, education lobbyist?

Margaret Stock, former unaffiliated candidate for Senate / YouTube screen grab

REPEAT OF STOCK VS. METCALF

In 2016, Margaret Stock ran as an independent, with the full support of the Alaska Democratic Party, against Sen. Lisa Murkowski.

But she had to face a familiar name — Ray Metcalf, the Democrat’s Democrat, who actually held the D spot on the November ballot, and that cost Stock. In the General Election, Stock won 13.2 percent of the vote, and Metcalf, with no party support, won 11.6 percent. Murkowski won with 44.4 percent of the vote, and Joe Miller, running as a Libertarian, took second with 29.2 percent.

Rep. Don Young, Republican

MEAHWHILE, DON YOUNG, DEAN OF HOUSE

Congressman Young, the man who Greg Jones would like to replace, is now Dean of the House, the longest serving member of the House of Representatives.

The former mayor of Fort Yukon, He also served in the Alaska House of Representatives from 1966 to 1970. Young moved to the State Senate in 1970 and the U.S. House in 1972.

Heads and Tails: Distilleries on ice, babies on parade

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P-FUND’S HOT HAND

The Alaska Permanent Fund corpus is now worth $66.2 billion. It has grown by more than $2 billion in the past 23 days.

DISTILLERIES ON ICE

The growing industry of small distilleries has been exploiting a bit of a loophole in regulation and has been turning tasting rooms into actual bars, where people get served mixed drinks. But no more.

The Alcoholic Beverage Control Board met yesterday and decided distilleries, which are not supposed to be bars, can’t be mixing cocktails at a place that is designated for manufacturing.

Turns out, some of the little distilleries are barely even distilling much of their own product. They buy it in bulk from the Anchorage Distillery, run it through their own equipment, wave a sprig of spruce tip over it, and voila, it’s their own distilled product without all the mess of disposing of mash.

DECLINE AND FALL OF JOURNALISM STANDARDS

The Snedden Chair of Journalism at the University of Alaska Fairbanks has a decidedly anti-Trump journalist now embedded in the school and teaching the students the tricks of the trade.

Here’s what Professor Katie Orlinsky posted on social media last week so her New York City pals could see how much she is influencing the course of events in the North:

POWER READ

On the April municipal ballot, voters will be asked to sell Municipal Light & Power to Chugach Electric. The promise is that rates will go down, employees won’t lose jobs, and efficiencies will be attained. The Anchorage Assembly moved it forward to the voters to decide on the billion dollar deal.

Is it a good idea? In theory, three power companies for one medium-sized city is inefficient. But voters will need more information before they can make an informed decision.

#BABYNEEDSAJOB
The Senate Labor and Commerce Committee will hear a presentation on the Alaska Technical Vocational Education Program on Thursday.
Anyone who want a sneak peek at Labor Commissioner Heidi Drygas’ newborn baby will have to wait until the final slide of the presentation by Deputy Commissioner Greg Cashen (Drygas is on maternity leave).
Normally we get restless halfway through presentations with acronyms like ATVEP, but who can resist a cute baby picture?
Be watching for Slide 18, when the big baby reveal comes along to wake up everyone on the committee. We’ve made an Andy Warhol image out of the slide, to protect the young one’s privacy. You’ll have to sit through the whole hearing to see the real thing.

But really? Isn’t Ms. Drygas starting the baby’s modeling career a bit young? And are child labor laws being broken?
TAX-BILL WALKER’S MEDICAID TSUNAMI

Gov. Bill Walker is asking for an additional $100 million for Medicaid. Since he took office, more than 75,000 additional Alaskans have been added to the Medicaid roles — 42,500 more able-bodied Alaskans without children and who are of working age were added in the Obamacare Medicaid expansion, and another 32,500 into regular Medicaid.

Sen. Anna MacKinnon said that the Medicaid program is stretching Alaska’s tight budget. The master of understatement.

Sen. Peter Micciche called the program an open checkbook. Medicaid now covers 197,000 Alaskans, more than one out of every four residents. The federal government pays about 67 percent of the cost, which is $1.7 billion this year.