SENATE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS FRACTURING?
Gov. Michael Dunleavy today indicated he will veto some or all of the State spending add-backs that have come from the House and Senate in the appropriation bill that passed the Senate today.
Dunleavy hasn’t said how much he’ll veto. He simply said that expects to get the bill soon, and he intends to work it over.
His message during today’s press availability was to supporters of the Permanent Fund dividend: He is disappointed. The passage of a $1,600 dividend this year, instead of the statutory calculation of $3,000, has turned the dividend program into more of a social welfare line-item, rather than an actual dividend coming from oil production.
That means, without some significant change, the dividend will be gobbled up as government takes more and more of it each year to make up for a spending imbalance.
Dunleavy said the Legislature’s actions could also invite a voter backlash. Voters cannot appropriate via initiative so it’s unclear what action they might take, other than replacing legislators in 2020.
“A few years ago, no politician would have thought of putting their hands on the PFD,” he told reporters. “Alaskans never got upset about the size of the PFD because it was a rules-based system.”
But this is the fourth year the statute has not been followed. The Legislature has not acted to change the statute, nor sent a change of the PFD calculation to a vote of the people, something Dunleavy proposed in legislation this year — legislation that has gone nowhere.
MORE SPENDING, LESS PFD
The Senate today added another $70 million in spending into House Bill 2001.
Of the governor’s $444 million in vetoes of the Operating Budget, only $23 million remain, with $421 million in add-backs by the House and Senate and a Permanent Fund dividend that has been reduced by nearly half.
An unanswered question is whether Dunleavy will veto the $1,600 dividend or simply cut his losses and accept the smaller dividend, since the Legislature appears to be in no mood to fund a $3,000 dividend.
Whatever he decides to do, the state budget still has a massive structural problem. Even with his original vetoes, the State budget was only halfway to balancing. Earlier this year, Dunleavy said that balancing the budget would have to take two or more years, since he didn’t have the support of enough legislators to get there in one year.
Dunleavy praised the passage of the Capital Budget, which passed the House earlier in the day. He said he was glad to see the funding for Power Cost Equalization and state scholarships restored, along with the other items that he had proposed for funding in his original budget.
SENATE’S BINDING CAUCUS MAY REORGANIZE, BECOME BIPARTISAN
The Senate Republican Majority will likely soon be taking a vote on whether it will allow the conservative Republicans who didn’t vote for the HB 2001 (PFD/spending bill) to remain in the caucus.
Sen. Lora Reinbold was the only recorded vote against the bill, and she explained on the floor of the Senate that although she didn’t agree with all of the governor’s vetoes, the amount set for the Permanent Fund dividend is breaking the law, and she wasn’t willing to do that. She will almost certainly be removed from the caucus.
Sens. Shelley Hughes and Mike Shower, from the conservative Mat-Su Valley, asked to be excused from the floor and watched the votes from their offices.
They were hoping that by being excused they would not be thrown out of the caucus. They may have also been hoping to prevent giving Senate President Cathy Giessel a handy excuse to form a bipartisan power coalition with Democrats. But it’s unclear whether the caucus will give them a pass.
Sen. Mia Costello, who has already been removed by Giessel as Majority Leader, voted in favor of the spending measure, which passed 17-1. She has been iced out of the Republican caucus informally after she went with other conservative legislators to the Wasilla special session called by the governor. Others who went to Wasilla for the session voted for the bill today, including Sens. David Wilson and Peter Micciche.
The binding rules for the Senate Republican caucus, which are private to the caucus, have possibly changed and now include not only voting with the caucus on the the operating budget, but on all appropriations.
Eventually these low life turn coats have to leave Juneau and face Alaskans.
Hughes and Shower are needing to hide from the vote, Mongo. I think that’s so they can go home. Heheh!
I lived in this great state on three different occasions; ’69-70, ’84-’85 and ’88-’14. My wife and two daughters were all born here.
The time has long past for Juneau to stand and be held to account. Issue the PFD, balance the budget, implement a sales tax, yes sales tax and state income tax. With 500,000 barrels a day of oil flowing in TAPS and declining, Alaska needs to admit it is addicted to oil and seek a aggressive intervention on multiple fronts. The last days of Rome are here or the final hours of the Titanic, whichever you prefer. A strong dose of reality is needed all the way around. Loss of services, and disposable income will drive a recession. However, Alaska has always and will reinvent itself in order to survive.
Here here!
When are the republican senators going to wake up and revolt agaist Giessel? What a bunch of cowards.
Call, on the floor, for her removal as Senate president. See how many votes she can muster when all the other coward Senators recognize they can remove the one scary thing that prevents them from doing what they know is right.p
Roll the chair now!
In case you hadn’t noticed Scott, Talerico mentioned on the House floor why it was that he was voting for the Capital budget-his constituents had voiced their wanting his vote for it.
I suspect many Senators, who have folks wanting a full PFD, also have a majority of constituents who want their govt. services with a smaller PFD. You don’t like their votes (or non-votes) but they know their voters and job 1 is to be re-elected IMO.
We’ll see what happens when the money runs out… nothing has been solved yet, and sucking the PFD dry to 0 is where were headed…
Wait until there are some bad years in the Stock Market and the government won’t be able to rely on the PFD money…
Then we will have taxes, no PFD and shoddy government services. I know that’s what you want Yankee… but we aren’t going to let you have your socialist dream.
Griz, where do you come off knowing what it is that I want?
You seem to also be a predictor of things to come that you don’t want. How do you intend to stop these things you yourself are predicting?
And it’s looking, to me, like it is your bathroom that’s breeding those Bolsheviks.
BY
Your full of it. You don’t want to spend responsible you just want it all. To bad there are a lot of us who do not buy what your selling.
Mark, you say I want it all as if you think I’m personally benefiting here and what do you mean by it “all?” I’m just selling common sense that clearly you don’t have.
This is just the majority of constituents want their representatives to provide a certain level of govt. services for some portion of that statutory PFD. Pretty simple to those with their thinking caps on. The tin foil on your head is restricting the blood to what’s left of your brain, Mark. Heheh!
Full pfd…follow the law…whats so hard about that..vote libs out..2020…follow our govs lead..we are ALASKANS, not sheep,act like it
We will soon see how much backbone Gov. Michael Dunleavy has. If he does not veto the Operating Budget, he will never be respected again.
Can someone explain to me how politicians so interested in upholding the Constitution can disregard the intent behind the 1976 constitutional amendment to create the Permanent Fund, the earnings of which were to go to the general fund to support basic government services. Continuing to pay out BILLIONS in ENTITLEMENTS at the cost of not funding low income seniors, etc. etc. – all in the name of upholding statutory law – is ridiculous. Jay Hammond argued against eliminating the income tax because he understood that at root people are selfish and free ride when convenient.
Gun toting socialists I say each and everyone with a handout for the Full PFD!!! Hammond would be rolling over in his grave if he could
Say there el,
I believe you’ve got a few wires crossed. Were you here in 1976? Your reasoning has no real basis. Jay Hammond is one of the originators of the PFD and I can assure you he had no intent of the PFD being used to fund government mismanagement. Statutory law is just that. Law. Ridiculous or not, it is what it is and was intended to be. A portion of the oil wealth was to go to the State of Alaska. A portion or the earnings was to go to the Alaskan citizens, as State shareholders. Never the twain were to meet, statutorily or not. Remember, “ignorance of the law/statute is not an excuse”. Leftists/dims (including judges) have bastardized the law/statute in their frenzy to spend other peoples’ money. OPM. I’m pretty sure it’s called socialism. Again, it’s not an “entitlement”. It’s a dividend. Big difference. Sounds like you’re the selfish one, wanting what’s not yours.
EL is Elstun Lauesen … just so you all know where he’s coming from.
Tttt Ben Colder, you should listen to EL.
Jay Hammond never wanted to have the PFD become an entitlement, as many Alaskans think it is now. He wanted some payment to the Alaska people, but not at the cost of not funding the elder, homeless and education.
You should review the Alaska status. Payment from the PFD to residents is written, but the amount of payment is left to the discretion of the legislature, not the Governor. The rule of 5 years average is just a rule, it isn’t written in the law.
Ben Colder, As you know the 1976 constitutional amendment establishing the Permanent Fund – the earnings of which were to go to the general fund to fund basic government services (go read the amendment to see for yourself) – preceeded the dividend. Hammond proposed the dividend after the amendment passed – based on longevity in Alaska – because of foolish profligate spending decisions by the legislature during boom times. The dividend was a way to give the legislature less money to waste and to have the people hold them accountable for spending. However he also strongly supported maintaining the income tax and said the worst policy that occurred while he was governor was the abolition of the income tax. Why? He knew basic government services needed to be funded and people have a tendency to free-ride. Now we are paying billions in dividends, and NOTHING in a broad based state tax, when we can’t fund millions in basic government services. This is foolish and shortcited and would never have been supported by Hammond or any other fiscal conservative. We still need to pay a dividend but only one that allows earnings from the Permanent Fund to be used first for their constitutionally intended purpose.
Absolute rubbish. The PFD was never intended to be used for, “government services.” It was specifically created because the People of Alaska can spend their money better than the government can.
It’s OUR money, not THEIR money. Get that straight and don’t ever forget it. I am for the cuts, the original ones the Governor promised. As well as understanding that it is a criminal act to steal ANY of the PFD from ANY Alaskan. Class actions in the works if it happens again. FULL PFD’s for ALL Alaskans!
Article IX section 15, read for yourself
https://ballotpedia.org/Article_IX,_Alaska_Constitution
Also take some time to read why Alaskans created the Permanent Fund
Everyone who gets shorted a lawful PFD is going to remember Giessel. And that’s not a good thing for her.
She already has a recall going on her if your in her district please contact and sign
I guess i don’t understand the importance of being in a caucus.
Dav9 – you get a committee chairmanship, for one thing. – sd
The dividend does not ‘cost’ the state anything, dividends do not have to be ‘funded’ by the state. The money is generated by the fund, not via taxation. Using language that implies otherwise feeds into the shenanigans of the wankers who are looting.
So how about this: since the wankers in Juneau want to take money when the dividend is above $1,600, are they going to make up the difference when it’s below $1,600?
No!!! They are asking for complicity in a felony from their counterparts. As soon as one of them votes, they get excited if they don’t have a friend to go down the sewer with. They give themselves permission to steal and they want their “buddies” in the Senate and House to do the same. The ones that refuse, are the ones that have character. The biggest whiners are Senate Finance Committee and old cronies.
What is unclear is whether the Governor still has 16 votes to sustain his vetoes. I sense some erosion of the Republican will in the House and Suzanne goes through the Senate in this article. If the votes exist to override the vetoes, the Governor suddenly becomes almost irrelevant and the spending will explode. We may be fairly close to seeing the Permanent Fund earnings converted into lots of spending for the operating budget.. just think: We can be like Venezula too!
I want a full PFD for all the natives in Alaska because I know first hand that many rely on it. Bryce doesn’t seem to care about it. I am a native American in a village, but the local clinic doesn’t accept my insurance. They tried to charge me $600 for a flue shot. I was charged $300 for a visit when I got sick. I make 20k a year. I’m 61 years old. I could use a full PFD as could all Alaskans.
Greg, you are fast finding out that a majority of Alaskans would rather have their govt. services at the expense of some of their PFD. We all “could use a full PFD” but in the interest in a balanced budget the House and Senate has struck a balance between the two.
You don’t like it, tough noogies.
“tough noogies?” Spoken like a true Lefty who doesn’t understand the difference between a “dividend” which is created from a constitutional fund, and a “budget” which is created by the legislature in accordance to projected state revenues in a yearly period. Nowhere does Alaska law require that the yearly dividend of the people of Alaska be mandated to support an operating budget for those lucky enough to have a state job. It’s PURE FICTION. But old Lefties like “Yackee Doodle” don’t understand economics, or the law. Just an old Troll with lots of time in Juneau to make Chiwaaaawaaa talk. Yip…yip.
That’s Yank my Doodle, it’s a Dandy, Kemo!
Our Supreme Court has ruled the yearly dividend is to be appropriated just like any other budget item. You will want to take up your inadequacies with them (SC).
“Little” doodle. Very little doodle. Yip….yip….
Bill yankee…i am fast finding out thats an out an out lie!! libs are pushing that bs in hopes of involving everyone in breaking law! PFD WAS NOT MADE TO FINANCE GOVERNMENT SPENDING!
Jan, if you look into it the PF was created to fund government services when the oil money couldn’t keep up. The PFD came later and it’s been determined (by our Supreme Court) that PFDs are just another appropriation to be dealt out as our Legislature sees fit.
Your turn.
Show us a copy of that decision, or reference it with a court citation, Yanko. And then go have another drink.
Here you go Johnie: http://www.alaskajournal.com/2017-08-25/supreme-court-rules-pfd-lawsuit
Johnnie,
You and I both know Bill can’t do that, let’s see if Bill can figure that out. The AK Supreme Court decision was very narrow and dealt more with the governors veto power than with appropriations.
Interestingly this ruling will probably play center piece in the case of the non-forward funding of education that the legislature has chosen to fight.
Well what do you know, the Four-flusher has been taking correspondence legal classes at night and is now the expert in SC rulings.
Who would a thunk it?
Heheh!
Did you even read the article you linked to Bill? It does not support what you’ve said. It doesn’t take correspondence course or being an expert, just the ability to read. If you think that makes me an expert then I consider that high praise indeed, Bill Yankee thinks I’m an expert…
Now you’re talking, Greg. “….for ALL Alaskans…..”
Greg. This is a serious issue. Which is why we need to think about how to get people a full PFD without destroying services.
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But, if, you live in a village you probably have PCE and if that’s removed the extra 1400 will be eaten away and then some by that veto.
Adam, you make a fantastic point. What good is a PFD is it’s spent filling the gap left by cutting back government services and subsidies? Starts to look like slight of hand designed to win elections, not run a state.
Many government sevices seem to benefit state workers and with a for the non government workers we can get our true needs met without the blessing or approval of a buracrate. The backbone of the state private sector workers can handle money far better than the selfish governmental sector that seems unwilling to try to cut cost! Why would they try to cut they can steal the pfd, blow it, then tax add fees (taxes ) they have no desire to frugal.
Irish Las, your comment is missing a reply button so I’ll reply to you here. I think it’s clear to all, but I still can’t resist pointing out that your comment smacks of misinformed baseless crazy. I suggest you find some solid examples to backup your wild swinging claims and also work a little harder to stay on topic. For example, how does PCE benefit state workers more than non-state workers, and also how does private investment reduce the need for PCE to maintain power cost affordability in rural areas?
What B said. We can’t run a bake sale for PCE.
JMARK, you seem to think that because an override exists on a particularly popular item that an override then suddenly exists on every other item and “spending will explode.”
What form logic do you subscribe to?
The two Alaskas: those employed by the state, and those not. Sad, but true. A typical ploy by Democrats to divide us. State employees want to keep their jobs, healthcare, perks, and security. The rest of us be damned. They want our legal PFD, or a sizable chunk of it, to ensure their employment with the state. Now you tell me: who is getting screwed, and who is doing the screwing?
Bill Walker, our disgraced previous governor, started the screwing. Byron Mallott taught him how to do it, using the vulnerable as targets. Now, the Lefties have caught on and love screwing the vulnerables so much that they do it everyday. Governor Dunleavy is now teaching Lefties to control their compulsions.
Lefties can control their compulsions? Since when?
Sorry you couldn’t get a State job. They aren’t for everybody, you do need to get beyond the 8th grade part.
The numerous spoiled brats acting as legislators for Alaska are haughty, perverse and in need not only of heavy-duty lessons in balancing budgets but also in understanding their role in government which is to work for and not steal from ‘we the people’. Indeed, legislators, your day of reckoning has arrived (even a fifth grader will get an unsatisfactory grade if they don’t add/subtract, etc. correctly); you failed for several years. It’s time to get it right! Work with Governor Dunleavy. Bring in a budget that most Alaskan’s will be proud of. If you are not willing to do that, or simply refuse – then it is time to resign!
You care so much about the budget but what have you done to deserve a $3000 dividend? The entitlement is palpable. Since when does conservativism involve large amounts of social welfare? The republican party has become so backward, it’s just not the same anymore.
Educate me here please: if the State is actually breaking the rules and illegally tapping the PFD… can’t we sue the state?
Of course you can. But this is the case the judge will decide — you will argue that the earlier law, that has the formula in it, is the “the law.” You will argue it is obviously the law because the other law — which allows the legislature to set the amount — doesn’t have a formula. When you hear “statutory rate” this is what it means.
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The other side will say that it’s common parliamentary practice to assume that laws passed later supersede laws passed earlier. That when it was passed the legislature was well aware of the previous law and it intended the new law to replace the old.
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I think the 1600 side has the better case.
No!!! They are asking for complicity in a felony from their counterparts. As soon as one of them votes, they get excited if they don’t have a friend to go down the sewer with. They give themselves permission to steal and they want their “buddies” in the Senate and House to do the same. The ones that refuse, are the ones that have character. The biggest whiners are Senate Finance Committee and old cronies.
Not giving all alaskans a full PFD, is breaking the law, its theft and it should pour outrage from us all….. Lets go Dunleavy, dont allow this to continue another year. We have been stolen from enough!!!!
The bovine excrement stacks up so fast in the legislature that you need wings to stay above it!
It is obvious that the “special interest” crowd are running the show, Their Ca$h Cow’s are sacred.
Oral Freeman is rolling over in his grave!
I hope he vetos and fights to provide us a full PFD. The legislature will piss the PFD away in no time otherwise.
The irony of a possible Senate Bipartisan Coalition is simply amazing. Remember in 2009 that 2 of the 4 senators not in that coalition were Senators Giessel and Coghill. That so-called Bipartisan Coalition spent the state into the exact trouble it is in today. Hold on to your wallets if that happens again. Senator Giessel is fully responsible for this fiasco of overspending.
Never forget that Alaska has always been ruled by Republican. Maybe one day, Alaskan will let the chance to a Democrat to rule it!
“The passage of a $1,600 dividend this year, instead of the statutory calculation of $3,000, has turned the dividend program into more of a social welfare line-item, rather than an actual dividend coming from oil production.”
Say what? That is rather tortured logic if there ever was!
Tortured logic? If I received a dividend from McDonald’s for owning shares in McDonald’s and then suddenly I started receiving a cash payment from Burger King what would you call that? The PF Dividend has historically been paid by the PF Earnings Reserve, under this scheme it isn’t being paid by the PF Earnings Reserve but directly out of various government accounts.
Yeah. The PFD is a good socialist program. The twists and turns people put themselves through to persuade themselves that’s not socialist . . .
Yes, it is socialism. I would not have built it into the Constitution at statehood but that is what we did and we cannot unravel it now. So we are stuck with a socialist program when it comes to subsurface rights.
However, by taking the citizens ability to profit or at least marginalizing those profits we are no longer talking about socialism. That is pure communism.
There is a huge difference between fiduciary managment of resources for the citizens and seizure of those funds for use only as the legislature sees fit.
This is not a trivial distinction.
Thanks for the reply. Glad we mostly agree
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Just as a clarification — it’s a statute, it’s not in the constitution.
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I the people need money in their pocket and they need services. The way to get there is an income tax that targets the millionaires.
I think we disagree more than you realize.
PF is in the Constitution. The PFD is statute with 39 years of history. – It makes no difference. Taking away private ownership of a resource, investing, and returning profits to the citizens is perhaps tolerable.
Taking away private ownership, investing those profits and giving it to the Politburo for use as it sees fit is not.
We can disagree if you try hard enough but I’m actually for getting money in people’s pockets and not in some corporate politburo.
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We, the people, own *all* the wealth of Alaska whether that wealth comes from cruise ships coming or from mineral extraction.
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We need to think about money in pocket at the end of the day. So if PFD – PCE means less money money should go for lower PFD to pay for PCE. If cutting services leads to increased local taxes then we have look at PFD – local taxes .
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Let’s do what benefits the most people, let’s do what is best for the people who work hardest
ADAM for GOVERNOR!
PFD is not in the Constitution.
PFD dollars amount is not in the low, neither in the constitution.
Only the PFD payment on an unknown amount of dollar is in the law.
The PFD amount is statutory, nothing obligate the legislature to follow it.
This is the Constitution and Law in Alaska, maybe you don’t like it, but you live in Alaska. If you really don’t like it, you can leave Alaska
I am wondering why we even waste our time electing a governor. I see a flawed system at work here. Elect a fiscal responsible governor only to have what he is trying to accomplish in his term being over-ridden by legislators who’s
motto is let the good times roll. Makes no sense at all.
Why indeed Scott?
Wouldn’t you just want to vote for a dictator who had no checks and balances to his accomplishments. Talk about letting “the good times roll.” Heheh!
Yankee you remind of some of those Texans that came up here to work on the pipeline Heheh!
Say Scott, next you’ll be telling us that those Texans were all socialists (or Leftys). Heheh!
Scott, Yankee only made it halfway home after the pipeline was built. He stopped in Juneau, a town that is minimally Alaskan, and rains Liberal, lefty tears.
Bill Yankee has this one right. The legislators were also elected. Alaska’s governor is already the most powerful governor in the US. Too powerful I think
The “doodle yankers” and other leftists today, trying to justify theft of the PFD, are just parroting the leftist “reasoning” behind that theft. PFD into the general fund? Give me a break. That’s the socialist mantra being espoused by the dim/socialist “politicians”, currently in control of the Alaska legislature. The PFD was and is intended to go to the legitimate shareholders/citizens of Alaska, from Alaskan oil payments. Not to a socialist, targeted, unconstitutional, illegitimate grab for Alaskan shareholder/citizens rightful dividend. Not an unconstitutional theft that had, and still does have, the dims/socialists “singing in the rain”. If left to the thieves, there will, shortly, be no PFD, no CBR, nothing but an empty sock. What then, dims? Taxes, more theft, more incestuous payouts to your lib/socialist supporters? No thanks. Support and encourage Governor Dunleavy and his attempts to balance the budget. Anything else will result in, in a short time, bankruptcy for Alaska. How does a household or private business survive when spending outpaces revenue? Cut spending. The only solution to an out of control spending addiction. Leftists know this but insist on continuing their anti fiscal/fiduciary madness, at the expense of real Alaskans.
“How does a household or private business survive when spending outpaces revenue? Cut spending.” Ben, you are just parroting our governor here and even you, along with the other knuckle-draggers on here, can see that another way to survive is to increase revenue.
Nothing Lefty or Socialistic about it either!
No taxes libby
Cut the bloated spending. You do have a problem trying to spend other peoples money.
Tell your Rep. Mark. They are quite good at spending Oil cos. money.
As usual you do not get it. Silly libs. The money they spend is revenue from the big bad oil company’s. They also are trying to spend the peoples bank account and when they drain that theu will tax you. THE GOVERNMENT HAS A SPENDING PROBLEM because of views like yours mr yankee.
You are the expert on your opinion, Mark. That said, you have no idea what my views are but feel they are opposed to yours and that’s fine.
Your concern about Libs is also fine, but doesn’t tell us much, other than you have this boogeyman under your bed. Get control of it or you will be miserable IMO.
billy,
I don’t know if you’re really an idiot or just writing like one. Either way, your socialist mentality is not impressive. I’m not ‘parroting’ anyone. Those are my words. The “parrot” is calling himself ‘bill doodle yanker’. Your insults are unbecoming and exactly the dim/socialist M.O. Give it a break. Increase revenue? From where? The PFD? It’s increased spending, fool. That exact mis-philosophy is what got Alaska into this mess. Oh, and more socialist thinking like yours.
Boy Ben, I must have struck a nerve. You are parroting Dunleavy as that is his thing-no increased revenues, just cut spending.
Any household facing this situation would clearly consider both increasing their revenues or cutting their expenses.
This isn’t insulting at all it’s just common sense, of which you seem to be lacking.
Your turn.
Billy You made a good point CUT EXPENSES. Way to go, you are learning.
SHOW US OUR PFD MONEY!
$3,000 NOW! & $3,000 LATER!
There is a way to give a full PFD, whatever that means. The legislature does indeed need to appropriate the dividend. It also needs to balance the budget.
There are ways to do this. Recently, the legislature have been cutting spending and using part of the PFD to fund the amount that the non-PFD money doesn’t cover. They can continue to do that, and the state supreme court says they can. They can also look to new revenues.
This is where the stuff hits the fan. The PFD was considered sacred, but, of course, it wasn’t. Even Gov. Murky tried to get a percent-of-market-value appropriation scheme out of it. Now, the thing that’s considered sacred is NO NEW REVENUE.
We can find the money to continue to have a decent state in which to live if we slay the NNR dragon and move into the twentieth century (we’ve a ways to go to get to the twenty first). We could institute state wide individual taxes and/or cut the oil tax credits (alleged to cover the entire deficit this year). We would then have the revenue to pay out a “full” PFD and pay for a decent place in which to live, one where we actually look out for each other rather that just ourselves, plus, the ones who need the PFD to get by would still have it.
It’s simple, but it isn’t necessarily easy. Especially with Dunleavy and Arduin shacked up in the governor’s mansion.
There is not an elected politician in Juneau that will get a vote from me. Time to turn them over boys and girls
Johnny Evans, if you don’t agree with the politic in Juneau, it may be time to leave the state!
Wait, Governor Dunleavy promise you $3000, and you want to stick here for this !
I know those two sentences are pretty low-ball. Sorry about that!
A dark day for the PFD when entitlement liberal , politicians get their hands on it. I’m talking both sides.YES YOU WILL BE VOTED OUT!
LIFE LONG ,ON THE FOREVER PAYROLE IS B/S. Like I have stated before,” Walker stole it by executive order & Dunleavy can give it back!
This was a campaign promise.
Promises made Promises kept
OR A ONE TERM GOVERNOR HE WILL BE!
Absolute rubbish. The PFD was never intended to be used for, “government services.” It was specifically created because the People of Alaska can spend their money better than the government can.
It’s OUR money, not THEIR money. Get that straight and don’t ever forget it. I am for the cuts, the original ones the Governor promised. As well as understanding that it is a criminal act to steal ANY of the PFD from ANY Alaskan. Class actions in the works if it happens again. FULL PFD’s for ALL Alaskans!
“The passage of a $1,600 dividend this year, instead of the statutory calculation of $3,000, has turned the dividend program into more of a social welfare line-item, rather than an actual dividend coming from oil production.”
A smaller dividend makes it social welfare, but a bigger one doesn’t? Do you think before you say things or do you just spout whatever lie fits your narrative because much like with Dunleavy’s voters the truth doesn’t matter to your readers? You’re ruining the state you call home, it’s sad. I hope you stay in the state long enough to feel the damage you’ve done, people like Tshibaka won’t.
A dark day for the PFD when entitlement liberal , politicians get their hands on it. I’m talking both sides.YES YOU WILL BE VOTED OUT!
LIFE LONG ,ON THE FOREVER PAYROLE IS B/S. Like I have stated before,” Walker stole it by executive order & Dunleavy can give it back!
This was a campaign promise.
Promises made Promises kept
OR A ONE TERM GOVERNOR HE WILL BE!
Say there Chipps, I’m thinking this Governor has more serious issues on his hands: Like trying to make it through his first term. Heheh!
Alaska is becoming a rural version of LA/San Francisco. The swamp is real here and we’re losing our State to them. All those liberals from the Left Coast have successfully taken over our State.
The PFD should NEVER have been touched to begin with. It’s like Crack to these liberals. They can’t stop spending it even if they wanted to.
Sad.
ALL $3,000 PFD OR NOTHING!
IF THEY MAKE IT NOTHING MAYBE THE SLEEPING CITIZENS WILL WAKE UP AND VOTE THE GREEDY LIBS OUT!
Dividend, welfare, entitlement, whatever you call it, it’s free money, I didn’t do anything to get it. Only in Alaska can this be a republican platform. I feel sorry for the people who truly need the money. Should be income based so those that need it get it. For people with enough income, that money would be better spent developing infrastructure, taking care of the elderly, and educating the next generation of Alaskans.
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