Sen. Giessel says an income tax on Alaskans is inevitable, ‘without question’

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Sen. Cathy Giessel

Sen. Cathy Giessel’s latest newsletter to her district talks about the need for more state revenue, and how that will have to come from Alaskans’ paychecks.

“Our traditional dependence on oil taxes to pay our bills doesn’t work anymore. Most of our funds come from the Permanent Fund earnings. Alaskans knew this would happen when they created the Permanent Fund in 1976. ‘New Revenue’ usually makes Alaskans think of personal income taxes. And that is in our future, without question,” she wrote.

Giessel, although once a fiscal conservative, joined the Democrat-led caucus in the Senate and has now flipped on every single conservative principle, including abortion.

Now, as she serves as chairwoman of the Senate Natural Resources Committee, she is normalizing the concept that Alaskans will end up paying an income tax to the state. The income tax was eliminated in 1980, when royalties from oil started paying for state services, and the oil boom flow of money led to a growth in government.

119 COMMENTS

  1. No. They spend more on education and the results get worse. No. No. No.

    We need to DOGE Alaskan government not find ways for them to spend more of our money funding things we don’t want. Enough already.

    • 100% spot on comment. DOGE would have a field day uncovering all the wasteful spending & corruption in Alaskan government. A true forensic audit is long overdue.

  2. What a worthless ‘fleck of dust’ on the ass of every hard-working Alaskan.

    How about cutting back on the spending programs, you twit!

    • [Giessel, although once a fiscal conservative, joined the Democrat-led caucus in the Senate and has now flipped on every single conservative principle, including abortion.]
      …………………..

      Nutshell.

      Alaska does not have an income problem. Alaska has a spending problem.

      Legislators have never had an income stream they didn’t piss away.

      • Ho hum. Another Bill Walker/Paul Seaton reprise from 2017. Gut the Permanent Fund and impose an income tax on hard working Alaskans and retirees who worked all their lives. Time for the DOGE revolution here in Alaska. Snort!

  3. Proposed sales tax in Anchorage. Proposed state income tax.
    This will make the cost of living in Anchorage more expensive and a large population will move to another state in the lower 48.

    We need to cleanup spending first. DOGE.

    • Let’s see how much these snakes value their political careers. They all need a good DOGE-ing! These layers of taxes on ordinary working people and retirees are “unsustainable” as the buzzword goes.

  4. Income Tax is only an option after you gut the PFD and leave Alaskans with nothing.
    The size of State Government needs to be cut, significantly.
    You and a few others have no business representing anyone in Juneau.

  5. Another backstabbing RINO whose sorry behind needs to be primaried out.

    Just like any other hardcore addict, government is NEVER satisfied with the amount of money they steal from the taxpayers, and ALWAYS demands more. They are parasites who will suck the productive economy dry and dead in their lust for ever-more control and power.

    I would say a lot more about this contemptible power-hungry sociopath of a politician, but Suzanne would surely not allow it to be posted.

    • With rank choice voting there is no ‘primary out’ anymore. This person got primaried out before RCV and then when RCV was law she got elected.

  6. Giessel ardently wants to become governor. In that quest Giessel has no beliefs she is not willing to compromise to that end. In fact, none of us know what Giessel’s core beliefs are.

  7. She might be referring to reducing the Dividend as an income tax. THAT is the first tax we will pay.
    Lord help us if they try a Dividend AND a Tax redistribution scheme

    • “……..Lord help us if they try a Dividend AND a Tax redistribution scheme…….”
      That is precisely what they want.

  8. The Governor’s 10 year plan shows a deficit of $1.5 BILLION + or – for the foreseeable future..

    We’ve allowed the Top 20% to avoid taxes by using the Permanent Fund to pay for government. We’ve destroyed the “North to the Future” dream for prosperity and replaced it with “Alaska, high costs that don’t pan out”.

    We’ve allowed politicians to blow through $20 Billion, hijacked from the CBR &SBR savings accounts, well over $10 Billion in stolen PFDs since 2015. We have lunatics that today want to pass HB 69 which will cost an additional $1.4 BILLION within 3 years to our failed Public School system…which is on top of the $2.4 Billion or so we pay annually….. And then as if the opiate pipe dream hasn’t taken the legislative majorities far enough down the rabbit hole.. the master acid drippers have this psychedelic illusion of reinstating the Defined Benefits program for a public employees golden parachute retirement… Which we still owe $7.4 BILLION left over from the last time we had it, nearly 20 years ago….

    What do the people get? Hmmm.. nothing new.. BUT we’re a few Billion behind in deferred maintenance… The lowest rankings possible for our public schools nationwide, a depleted Cook Inlet gas field begging for subsidized help from the State…. But the light at the legislative end of the financial tunnel is glowing brightly for the legislators savoring their 67% pay raise a year ago…

    Someone kindly refill the pipe for them to pass around again….

    • “…….We’ve allowed the Top 20% to avoid taxes……..”
      There’s that “Top ‘X’ percent” line again.
      We have a population of 730K. Of those, statistically, 156K are children, and thus not “top” anything, so take 20% of 574K……….=114,800.
      You expect 114,800 Alaskans to pay the $1.5 billion per year and growing deficit?………..while the rest of us get annual payments of $1K-$2.5K?
      What are you smoking?

  9. The Governor’s 10 year plan shows a deficit of $1.5 BILLION + or – for the foreseeable future..

    We’ve allowed the Top 20% to avoid taxes by using the Permanent Fund to pay for government. We’ve destroyed the “North to the Future” dream for prosperity and replaced it with “Alaska, high costs that don’t pan out”.

    We’ve allowed politicians to blow through $20 Billion, hijacked from the CBR &SBR savings accounts, well over $10 Billion in stolen PFDs since 2015. We have lunatics that today want to pass HB 69 which will cost an additional $1.4 BILLION within 3 years to our failed Public School system…which is on top of the $2.4 Billion or so we pay annually….. And then as if the opiate pipe dream hasn’t taken the legislative majorities far enough down the rabbit hole.. the master acid drippers have this psychedelic illusion of reinstating the Defined Benefits program for a public employees golden parachute retirement… Which we still owe $7.4 BILLION left over from the last time we had it, nearly 20 years ago….

    What do the people get? Hmmm.. nothing new.. BUT we’re a few Billion behind in deferred maintenance… The lowest rankings possible for our public schools nationwide, a depleted Cook Inlet gas field begging for subsidized help from the State…. But the light at the legislative end of the financial tunnel is glowing brightly for the legislators savoring their 67% pay raise a year ago…

    Someone kindly refill the pipe for them to pass around again….

  10. Giessel says a lot of things. Remember when she supported Fauci on the Covid shot and how we all needed that too. Well there is a lot of dead people that took the shot and a lot suffering from the shot.
    Don’t believe a word she says. Whatever for the moment.

  11. Another COMMUNIST offended at the very idea that Alaskans have some freedom while she wants to spend money on herself via her wealth transfer dreams that no one else wants.

  12. I wont be paying state income tax . She can use her own money to fund her pet projects .
    Income tax = slavery period .

  13. Sorry, but there remains a H U G E question:
    Are you still going to be mailing out cash to folks to buy drugs, alcohol, trips to Maui, toys, cheap Chinese junk, etc while initiating new taxes on the middle class?

  14. Giessel is normalizing the concept that she is a leftist, and not a conservative of any kind. I’m certain at this point that many more democrats vote for her than Republicans.

    • We need to flush Juneau. It is a remote location dominated by government employees and lobbyists from down south. We should at least have our legislature meet in a neutral spot like Bethel or Kotzebue.

      • We need our capitol on the road system where “We the People” can supervise their behavior and adk them “what did you accomplish today?”

  15. Of course it is. It’s money they don’t have, and people stupidly continue to elect the same set of clowns who got us here.

  16. I don’t mind paying taxes but you have to be able to collect it efficiently and it has to be fair. Basically what Cathy the traitor is saying is if you work your ass off then you get to pay more than the dead beat down the road that uses the exact same service as you. How equil is that. ??

  17. Cost more to administer than would be collected even given an unreasonable taxing scale. All that would develop is a new staff and office.
    Of course, the initial percent amount would be low. It would be the “Boil a Frog” process.
    Politicians have never seen a tax proposal that they don’t salivate. I hear that tone in her presentation.
    Cheers-Al Johnson-Ketchikan

  18. Let’s see if I get this right. The reason that AK does not have an income tax is due to the natural resources revenues (not just oil and gas) that are supposed to pay for a substantial portion of government services, but politicians over the past 50+ years have continuously taken steps to reduce (not grow) the income the state receives from its own natural resources, so that now the government needs to make up the difference by suggesting an income tax? I call that political self dealing and intellectually lazy on the part of politicians that are unable or unwilling to conceive of ways for the state to increase economic opportunities from its natural resources for it’s citizens and thus improve the receipts to the states coffers.

  19. She’s a liberal, big spender at this point, who seems to have left God, and doesn’t seem to care how much damage she does to Alaska and Alaskans as long as she gets her way. And some men are afraid to stand up to her, and tell her the truth, holding their ground no matter what. They are also not submitted to and obeying the Holy Spirit.

    Weak men are the main problem? 

  20. The corrupt (U) uni-party can do whatever they want, they killed the Alaskan GOP. Why is the “Alaskan GOP” quiet, did they surrender to the union controlled democrats? We are going to be the big losers with the corrupt legislators in Juneau. Mark my words!

  21. Mike Shower needs to be our next governor. Then we need Alaska DOGE and no RCV to purge the RINOs. No income tax needed!

  22. When this was brought up last time it was projected to generate between $200-300 million dollars per year. That doesn’t hardly make a dent in the current years budget, let alone all of the spending that they are looking at this year and each subsequent year.

    • But Steve, you want to give away our oil, so now you get an income tax… or you could end the corporate welfare. The $8 dollar per barrel credit costs us $1.4 billion every year. That more than covers an income tax.

      • M,
        You frequently use word that you either do not understand or you chose to use incorrectly, it does your opinions a great disservice.

        • Sorry, Steve, you don’t get to appoint yourself as the arbiter of definitions. That work is the province of those who write dictionaries.

          And here’s the definition of ‘corporate welfare’ which you like so much that you want Alaskans to pay an income tax to subsidize:

          cor·po·rate wel·fare
          noun
          government support or subsidy of private business

          • M,
            You’ve finally discovered the book of secrets that you’ve been searching for, now it’s time to properly use the tools. Congratulations on your voyage of discovery, I look forward to you finally using the correct words and actually using them correctly in your rants!

  23. How about having Musk come up and do an audit and seeing where the money is going or not going . One thing for sure is our state government is horribly run . Education is in a free fall and spending more and more funds for less students and failing grades .

  24. Giessel the old weasel. Another born and raised Catholic girl who likes to kill babies. And at one time she was even a nurse. Liberalism is a mental disorder. And Giessel is really affected.

  25. Ah Senator Giessel, she who speaks with forked tongue.

    On the one hand she is trying to sell us that the state can afford not only the gold plated defined benefits plan for state employees, to say nothing about the perpetual BSA increase just passed out of committee in the house.
    Yet on the other hand she claims that our natural resources are diminishing and Alaskans will need to pay for government without that resource revenue.

    Well Senator here are two observations:

    1) If we are truly in such dire circumstances shouldn’t you as our elected leader and your compatriots in Juneau make every effort to reduce the size and financial demands of government? Cut costs? Cut staff? Focus on essential and constitutionally required tasks?

    2) There is no way on God’s green earth that working Alaskans can generate enough income to provide enough taxes to cover the billions and billions the state spends every year.

    This in my opinion is another ploy to bamboozle Alaskans into turning over the corpus to the legislature.

  26. If they cant make do with money from natural resources they sure as hell cant make it work with taxes. Shameful to even float the idea

  27. I guess Cathy Giessel wants an income tax to pay for the 1/2 billion $$$ increase going to K12 employees. That works for them-they get a salary increase and then can afford to pay the income tax!

  28. Cut the Capitol and Operating budgets until it is balanced and there is no deficit. The legislature has 120 days to do these tasks. We have a spending problem.

  29. Pray for Giessel!!! We grew up in church with them. They were super normal, traditional, and conservative.

    Who knows what happened?

  30. Term limits would stop the dirty theft of our rights, property and money !!! flush the toilet’s and get it to stop the stinking ??‍?

  31. I have a hard time with the scenario where I am receiving a pfd and paying an income tax. Unfortunately the law of gravity kicks in after you have forgotten all about it. I imagine that’s why Buffet is accumulating a record amount of cash.

    • “……I have a hard time with the scenario where I am receiving a pfd and paying an income tax……..”
      Me, too, especially knowing that many thousands will not pay income taxes, will still receive a pfd, will continue to demand bigger pfd payouts, and will also continue to demand more state services.

  32. In Alaska, there are approximately 450,000 potential income taxpayers. If every Alaskan paid $2,000.00 in income tax a year and got zero money back on a tax return, it would equal $900 million. The current deficit is $1.7 billion. They would still have to take the PFD to cover that shortfall. That’s just how far out there they really are.

    Also, let me add this: last year, of all the money the state spent, 57.4% was federal money — yes, TAX dollars. Of the remaining 42.6% of money spent, 55% of that came from savings. The rest was actual revenue.

    For all of you out there who have run a business, listen to this: in the finance committee this year, they testified that the three largest sources of revenue in Alaska are:

    Federal tax dollars

    Savings account

    Oil

    We need oil to be around $90.00+ to balance the budget, with an average lift cost of $45.00 +/- $5.00 per barrel. With President Trump looking to lower the cost of energy ASAP, figure a $60.00 barrel market price. I predict they will spend us right into 75% or greater federal dependency, which is why I now say we have become a federal enclave. THEY OWN US!

    So you see, a proposed income tax will do nothing but destroy what is left of the private sector. It equates to nothing more than redistribution and the same goes for the absolutely absurd idea from Rep. Yundt of a 9.4% tax. Corporations don’t pay taxes taxpayers and consumers do.

    We need to put a 10-year moratorium on state growth, if not shrink it by about 40% or more, and allow the private sector to grow. We need to drop all the UN Net Zero globalist ideologies that have infected this state and get back to development. We need an executive with a rigid spine, willing to fight. And for the sake of God, we need to stop the flow of federal dollars into this state and we need about 58 new people in Juneau.

    • According the the Bureau of Labor Alaska had roughly 350,000 jobs. Given that about 50% of the average American who has a job pays federal income tax that means there are about 175,000 jobs in Alaska that would be subject to a state income tax, based upon previous income tax proposals.

    • I would like to suggest a caveat to your oil scenario. Yes $60/barrel will be detrimental, but assumes current production rates. It is my understanding that the point of reducing regs is to INCREASE production significantly and explore and bring to market other resources like LNG. An increase in production will to a certain extend negate the lower price and even increase demand as the resource becomes more affordable. All increasing income for the state coffers.
      I support your 10 year moratorium on government growth. A true assessment is overdue.

  33. The Federalist had an article this week titled, “Meet The Group Writing The Blueprint For Dismantling Bureaucracy In Every Red State” by Shawn Fleetwood. I urge Alaskans to read it.

    Texas has the same problem we do. I suspect other red states do as well. Next revolution needs to be ridding us of the rinos.

    I’d rather be stabbed in the front by marxist dems then in the back by rinos.

    • “…….I’d rather be stabbed in the front by marxist dems then in the back by rinos………”
      After the Trump moves on Canada, Greenland, Ukraine, Europe, and federal employees/agencies over the past month, it’s looking like you might get your wish. And I doubt the RINOs will be coming to your assistance, since allies obviously don’t rate very high with conservatives. They already have knives in their bleeding backs. Moreover, whatever Trump wants done, he’d better do it by January 2027. There’s about a -10% chance that Congress will remain in a Republican majority now, and I have a very strong suspicion we’ll be hearing calls for impeachment again about that period of time.
      I’m still waiting with bated breath to learn if those Ukrainian rare minerals are under areas currently occupied by Russian troops, and what Trump offered in return for Zelenskyy to concede. The surprises seem to come in spades.
      Stupidity has consequences………..

  34. Taking more from the people is always the only solution for government. It’s because they are too cowardly to stand up to our own bureaucrats and public employees and say no. Just easier and less controversial to dig deeper into our pockets. There’s actually two sides to a budget…revenue and expenses but politicians can only see the revenue side for some reason. Here’s a viable option…stop all welfare and stop all spending on illegals. Let’s see how much that will help out.

  35. People who can leave will do it now, thus making the situation even worse. No way can such a small population cover those costs, especially for so many who live ‘off the land’ but while other Alaskans pay the price.

    • Looks to me that the folks leaving Alaska are coming to Mat-Su. Moving to the Lower 48 is jumping from the pot into the fire. Those folks down there are in debt up to an altitude of lower orbit………..even worse than Anchorage.
      As terrible as this situation appears, it’s worse elsewhere. Like I always used to say during the Cold War:
      It could be much worse. We could be Soviets…………..

      • True. I lived many years in Alaska (as a friend once said: “17 summers and 34 winters”). Believe me, as a state, Alaska is still well to the right of Washington, Oregon (my state of 34 years), and far-Left California. Fight hard (non violently) to keep your freedom.

    • Uh, Frank…..I’ll stick with alternate universe. It’s friendlier and honest over here. Enjoy your booze and drugs.

    • Frank, you’ve proven to have been posting from an alternate dimension on a consistent basis. Your comments are enjoyed only as comedy, like a good cartoon.

    • But it doesn’t have to be this way. We don’t have to spend our way into oblivion. This doesn’t have to be our reality.

  36. One in every five jobs in the State of Alaska is held by a non-resident. These workers then return home and pay income taxes in their home state! Insanity.

    We should make out-of-state workers purchase a work permit. Maybe $5k per year. That would raise much needed state income and incentivize people to actually reside in the state that they work.

    As far as new taxes? Not a chance. We need to gut state spending first. Public schools are overfunded!

    • Sounds good but that would be found to be unconstitutional. Same as saying only out of staters would pay income tax, it would be seen as essentially the same thing.

      • Unconstitutional on a state or federal level? I don’t know the best answer here but there has to be a way to stop earnings from flowing directly to other states without having any local impact.

  37. TAP, NOT TAX, makes more sense.

    Gain control of the abusive oil and gas agency’s decisions that are illegal, unreasonable, and abusive and fire the people behind it.

    BETTER IDEA: Welcome new OIL AND GAS investments so Alaska can attract drilling funds; otherwise, people won’t invest in Alaska.

    INVESTORS WON’T COME TO ALASKA IF THEY ARE NOT WELCOME, AND MANY have been leaving Alaska TO FUND drilling in good places like Texas and other fair and friendly oil and gas states where oil and gas production increases every year instead of decreasing like Alaska is.

    THIS ABUSE IS making politicians CHOOSE TO TAX ALASKANS instead of FIRING abusive OIL AND GAS bureaucrats.

  38. Andrew Peterson said the magic word—–UNION. Specifically State Employees UNION. They find a Legislator they can flip, and fund their campaign with Money, Manpower—placing large signs at intersections, small yard signs in thousands of Union members yards, members waving signs on election day, free media expertise writing and placing media ads, and much, much more. While challengers to Kathy G, like Roger Holland have do all these things, and much,much more by themselves. It’s not the Uniparty, it’s the UNION PARTY that is taking control of our State, and DESTROYING IT. PRESIDENT TRUMP is showing us how to take Our State Back. I agree with Mark Johnson above me, it’s time to get behind Mike Shower, and MAKE ALASKA GREAT AGAIN. Drain the swamp of Juneu like Trump is doing to DC.

  39. She’s deluded if she thinks we’ll placidly go along with paying a state income tax. I, for one, won’t play. She seems to forget that with Trump at the helm, oil and gas will once again be a boon to our state economy.

  40. One would think with Giessel’s “has now flipped on every single conservative principle, including abortion” that we would be numb to her continuing idiocy. But I am again SHOCKED by her stupidity and duplicity. How can she sleep at night? To express more of my opinion than this and Suzanne won’t let it be posted…

  41. Well this will certainly set the rabbits running – people being asked to pay for their own Government. For far too long, Alaskans have lived off of Federal largesse and oil money, all the while proclaiming their rugged independence and self-sufficiency. Living out life on The Last Frontier! Laughable, really.

    With declining oil revenue, Trump/Musk cutting funds to your State, and people fleeing, Alaskans may finally be asked to pay a portion of their own way, just like folks do in most other places. The horror!

    Well folks, the gravy train is almost over and it’s time to pay up.

    • I would not have any problem paying taxes if they were actually used on things that benefitted me in some way.
      Sorry, but pensions for State workers does not benefit me. It ends up bankrupting cities and states.
      Education does not benefit me. Well, every school having a half dozen vice principals does not benefit me, teachers and children that can read do benefit me.
      .
      I am more than willing to pay my own way. I am NOT willing to pay for someone else’s way.
      .
      How are you doing on that column you are going to submit to Suzanne for publication?

  42. Try this out.
    On Monday morning, walk into your boss’ office, and tell them you purchased a brand new European luxury sedan. But, you cannot afford the payments, so he HAS to give you a raise.
    Tell us all how that works out.
    .
    Somehow, politicians have no problem doing exactly the same thing to taxpayers. They spend first on luxury items (pensions, DEI, studies, homeless) and when they find out they cannot afford the necessities, they demand more money from their bosses. (Their constituents.)
    .
    The Anchorage Assembly does that, the US Congress does that, and State legislatures across the nation do it.

  43. There are to factors to fiscal stability.
    1. Revenue (income), and
    2. Expenditures (spending).
    .
    If you are having a tough time making ends meet, you can increase revenue, or decrease spending. It never surprises me in any way politicians are incapable of cutting spending. Instead, they increase it, despite a lack of revenue to cover the spending.
    .
    Then they pass a law requiring the average person to pay more for their waste on stuff the average person gets no benefit from.

  44. I wonder if Musk is for hire every year the education department come up short in funds. Even though they close schools and have less students and test scores are lower.

  45. Giessel and the Democrats remind me of those old comic strips where the mafia has turned one of their victims upside down to shake the loose change from his pockets.

    How much does it cost us to fly representatives to and from Juneau? To keep the governors mansion open and maintained, to house the representatives, to feed them. How much of our money is being poured into special interest groups or studies?How much of our money goes towards colleges and universities that teach useless classes? How much do we pay those visiting professors to teach those useless classes?
    Maybe the solution is less representatives that serve their own interests, but instead serve the actual people busting their butts earning the money.
    Anchorage is already well on its way to being a rusted out city, youth are leaving , who wants to live in a place with no future opportunity’s and the blood sucking representatives want to suck you dry of the little money you make?

  46. Giessel was on the traitors that voted to give away our oil revenue. Now she wants Alaskans to pay an income tax to subsidize the theft of our oil.

    Brilliant!

    Instead of an income tax we need a fair share for our oil, by first ending the $1.4 billion per year we pay in corporate welfare- aka the $8 dollar per barrel “credit”.

  47. It’s amazing, but also sad and predictable, how so many legislators become utterly corrupted by the system after spending years working within it. Case in point: Cathy Giessel.

    (Or is it really now Karen Giessel?)

  48. We sure are missing our one true conservative in David Eastman. This Yundt guy was obvious a poor valley representative. The Republican Party needs to vet these swampy democrats better.

  49. All of the above comments are 1, fun to read; 2, somewhat factually true; 3, downright hilarious; 4, completely off the mark and I’ll explain, somewhat …
    Giessel became a Democrat because of the toxic liberalism that has invaded the State Legislature. With that demented disease comes a thirst for power that can’t be quenched. Someday, she will say she never said the word “Income Tax”.
    The other thing that no one has mentioned is “TERM LIMITS”!!!
    The newly elected Legislature would do well with the idea of actually being true “citizen legislators” by balancing the budget, and if you do, then you’ve got a chance to run for re-election and if the budget is NOT balanced … pack your bags and let someone else get in there and try. Simple, so simple, but not palatable …

  50. Let’s start with a cut in pay for Giessel! And then a recall! Next cow proof Alaska! No more wasteful spending and stupid projects! Crime is up, students are doing poorly, and the politicians want to throw away the permanent fund! Time for a Musk review cleaning up the mess Giessel and the other Rinos are doing to Alaska!!

  51. No, no, and hell no! I’m in total agreement with commentors above.

    Alaska is already a very expensive place to live. Watch more people flee the state if this income tax plan is implemented. Dems have already taken half our PFDs because of their insatiable and stupid spending, (public schools and homeless in hotels, for instance) and will never be satisfied. Pretty sure they’re gonna fall back on the old, “we’ll have to take your entire PFD or implement income taxes. Make your choice.

    Last I heard, Alaska receives more federal funding than any other state! There’s never going to be enough for

    I say DOGE needs to take a look at the expense accounts here.

  52. This is why I left Alaska after 39 years. The decline is long-term. It will not soon be curbed and there will be a great pain for those who must live through it until common sense regains rules.

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